wait- if that is what this comment is about- how petty is that? trying to figure out a person's net worth? The obvious point that seemingly everyone on this entire thread besides me and MAYBE 1 or 2 others, is that these are PEOPLE. Let me spell it out: P-E-O-P-L-E. here again, another example of disgusting attitudes people blindly adopt that do nothing but perpetuate homelessness. And how much are these ignorant attitudes costing tax payers dollars? Shall we attempt to measure that cost? If we did, I'm sure we'd find that rich people along with people of this (supposed 'intelligent') attitude are costing taxpayers far more dollars than the homeless are. Obviously by both TWRL and Allison Joy's comment supporting this idiocy- that you too do not believe in homeless rights. If these typ of attitudes are perpetuating sexism as well, than my my, are we in a sorry state of affairs here?

I dont think it does ben. I dont see any civility on discussions concerning articles here addressing the river parkway and other controversial homeless topics. I have seen a lot of bias, allowing for snide remarks toward homeless and even ganging up on of homeless people participating in the debate by those who want to criminalize homeless on the river and in general. while heavily policing people who retaliate with the same tactics used by the perpetrators of such acts. It is a double standard, and a blatant one. When the first article here I saw where homeless were being belittled and patronized by commenters and Sac Press staff sat idly by, there was a great deal of 'polarization', and it was a total 'for' and 'against' debate. Now all of a sudden this is an issue? I think if that statement serves to diminish the point made by the article and strengthen the popular opinion shared on this page, then it is important to address, but otherwise it doesnt really matter. It serves SacPress to cater to its general audience, so it would seem that governs what you define as 'civil'

LOOK HERE ^ EVEN THE BIBLE ADVOCATES FOR THE POOR(and homeless of which are poorest of poor) So all these people are speaking against what the Bible says! . That is Sacrilege! God has a place for those who speak out against Him. Thats what the Bible says! Im just using reference to back up my statements. Pretty caustic stuff I might add!!

Also Joel, what you say is complete opinion and nothing more. Because you side with popular opinion, it may seem you have a valid point, but then again, it is only your opinion, and popular at that. There many people waking up to the fact that popular opinion is often rubbish and people who follow it follow blindly. So thumbs up!

I see the need to constantly defend myself and the homeless from the endless assault of seeming slander and defamation of character on myself and them. Not to mention, all the opposing comments say the same thing- hence the term 'echo-chamber'. Here you are critiquing my comments and article- I'm not wording it intelligently enough for you in your opinion, Im not keeping to the topic(so you say)> You sound just like everyone else here Joel. Let me give you the quick rundown- everyone on here thinks that the homeless(at least most) choose to be in their current situation, deserve what they currently suffer, and that if any changes need to be made, its THEM that needs to change, not the system or laws governing it. And I am voicing my concern for human rights of the homeless challenging thses seeming opposing viewpoints-alone. Thats about everything, summed up in this little reading. I know I don't articulate with the high intelligence level as most of you(so you say). You'll just have to bear with me I guess