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by Jared Goyette, published on October 8, 2012 at 6:29 PM

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You've been to K Street in Downtown Sacramento, but have you ever been to "The Kay"?

That might be how you start referring to it soon if a rebranding effort for the stretch of K Street between Seventh and 13th streets proposed by The Downtown Partnership is successful.

Lisa Martinez with the Downtown Partnership said the inspiration for the name came from a fact depicted in a recent book on K Street by local historian William Burg: K Street was often spelled as "Kay Street" in old addresses and newspaper articles from the 1800s through the 1960s, when the street was part of a thriving downtown core.

According to Martinez, the name "The Kay" refers to that history and expresses the idea that the street is returning to its roots, but with a new style. 

"We wanted to be able to express that nod back to where our roots are as a district and as a city, but also be able to move the conversation forward, because you can't recreate your history, but you can build upon it – that's what we're trying to accomplish with "The Kay," she said.

Burg concurred that the K Street’s new direction is connected to its history.

“Well, what we're seeing now is a return to that neighborhood's traditional role,” he said. “Traditionally that was not just the shopping district but also the entertainment district – where the nightclubs were, but also where the hotels were, and one thing that we've seen in the last couple of years that has been happening is the opening of a new hotel, The Citizen, and then multiple new restaurants and entertainment venues.”

The partnership has applied for a permit to put new street signs with the "The Kay” logo at every intersection from Seventh through 13th street on K Street. The application, along with the designs of the logo, made their way onto Facebook Monday afternoon.

Martinez said that the partnership’s branding committee had developed the idea, which includes business owners from K Street. She is still in the process of reaching out to more business to get additional feedback.

The rebranding will be part of a larger campaign – which is still in development – that will include profiles of business owners and entrepreneurs downtown.

The idea, she said, is to help encourage the district’s revitalization by doing a better job of telling its story.

"It's about creating a really full, vibrant neighborhood, a place where you can experience things, a place where you can meet up with people," Martinez said. 

We’ll be following-up on this story as more information becomes available.

What do you think of the name “The Kay” and the proposed logo? Sound off in the conversation below.  

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October 8, 2012 | 7:02 PM
Uh, who is funding this? Are "fancy" street signs really the best use of taxpayer money?? How about better parking instead. And I assure you nobody's gonna be calling K Street "The Kay" anytime soon!
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October 9, 2012 | 12:28 PM
Politicaldebater: May I ask you a few personal questions? What zip code do you live in? How often do you visit K Street or the downtown area? 

If you would like to debate topical issues: I hope you put your money where you fingers/mouth are. Let me reassure you that for K Street to rebrand itself with something -as minute of a name change- will be far more greater than power washing or better parking. Those request are already physically there and happening. 

As I interpret your above statement I acknowledge that you do not visit K Street or downtown very frequently. You ask for better parking, where would you like to see better parking? I can tell that you do not live in the urban core because you asked for parking. You're not well traveled, have not been to many urban metropolis. If you have been or dwell within, then you would know that parking is readily available and walking one or two blocks is not an issue. 

Many cities have specific areas with designated names like "The Kay". Some examples within California are: Gas Lamp district of San Diego, Santana Row of San Jose. The previously mentioned district or streets are know by tourist and locals because of their branded name. I've been to both places many times and I cannot tell you the street names. But i can tell you the names that are branded. My point is that the areas with branded names make sense, and make sense for (most) locals and visitors to our city who are looking for certain destinations. 

I was walking on K street this past weekend and a Japanese tourist approached me and asked where she could buy Sacramento souvenirs, I felt very sad that as a resident of Sacramento I could not provided her with a great answer near us. She had a map of the downtown area, within the map I directed her to go all the way down "this street" pointing towards Downtown Plaza then she said the magical words in her broken English accent "Old Sacramento?" bingo, that's  it! She didn't say "oh Front Street and K Street", nope she said the Branded name of "Old Sacramento". 

Point proven that branded names work.
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October 10, 2012 | 1:21 PM
DowntownSacramento: I live in Oak Park, but I spend plenty of time Downtown, and I love how K street has improved so far. Now, parking is a whole different issue, and if you're gonna tell me that you love parking downtown, well, good for you; you must be from San Francisco.

You bring up a good point about branded names. However, my dislike for the name "The Kay" aside, I still don't see the importance of new street signs; I have no idea what the street signs for Old Sacramento look like, and I have been there plenty of times.
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edited on  October 8, 2012 | 7:27 PM
I'm o-"kay" with it.
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October 8, 2012 | 7:25 PM
The signs are funded by the Downtown Sacramento Partnership, not the City of Sacramento.
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October 8, 2012 | 9:21 PM
Sorry, this is too cheesy for my liking. K Street has just recently started to become a destination to spend any time at and this is way too early for a rebranding. We don't even know what it's going to become yet. The sign isn't even that progressive looking. If K Street is trying to be a hip, urban destination, this sign isn't helping. It looks small town, cow town.
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October 9, 2012 | 12:43 PM
What's your suggestion?
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October 9, 2012 | 3:22 PM
If you read my previous comment, I said we don't even know what the district is going to become so obviously we should make that decision at a later time. You should rebrand something when it's become something new. K Street is still a smelly, mess.

Better uses of energy right now might include: trash cleanup, power washing (it smells like pee all the time), crime prevention, installation of public bathrooms, public art, etc.
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October 9, 2012 | 3:54 PM
Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits. - Thomas Edison

You can't wait for things to become, you have to make them come. If you hesitate and become inferior, someone else will have not hesitated and become superior.

The name change is a baby step before K Street or The Kay or Kay Street until that area takes off running. Maybe I'm used to the smell or choose not to be disturbed by the unfortunate things in life but while I'm constantly on K Street I don't see or smell what you're talking about. Can you provided the cross street or business that you're all referring too and then maybe the DSP or the city can concentrate more on the areas described. Also if you have such a negative opinion of K Street, what brings you back or what brought you to the area in the first place?

I agree more public art is needed but that would mean more money! You need businesses to bring in tax dollars then you could have more of everything. I have literally walked down K Street during all times of the day and night, I don't see cops arresting or harassing people on K street. Do you know why I don't see this? That's because it's not happening as much or if at all. You're jaded by the Pee-ast. There are now privately funded officers on K Street to keep people in check, keeps them afraid of doing wrong.

Most places will let a person -that does not look suspicious- use their bathrooms when needed.
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October 9, 2012 | 11:16 PM
DowntownSacramento- Are you Steve Hansen?
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October 8, 2012 | 9:36 PM
The "The" preceding Kay seems patently Southern California. I can understand the desire for wanting to re-brand this portion of our city core, but should we be adopting the vernacular of So Cal... Hella irritating.
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October 9, 2012 | 7:32 PM
The "The" convention in Southern California lingo seems more associated with highways--"the 5" or "the 405" etcetera, where a northern Californian generally doesn't use a "the" to refer to a highway--take I-5 to Highway 50 then Capitol City Freeway. But in terms of neighborhoods, the "the" convention isn't much in use in Los Angeles. Nor is it unknown in Sacramento--just west of this part of K Street was "The West End," and the area south of Japantown near what is now Southside Park used to be known as "The Arizona District" until the early 1900s.

As I said, I'm not entirely comfortable with it myself--but it's not really due to a norcal/socal thing. And I always thought "hella" was a norcal term, as evidenced by the recent efforts by a UC Davis mathematician to make "hella-" the official SI prefix for 10^27, and the Sacramento band Hella. (the old joke went: "How many Norcal punks does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Hella. How many Olympia punks does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Mass.")
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October 8, 2012 | 11:20 PM
I came to Sacramento as a teenager in 1958 and I remember "Kay Street" being used in advertising a lot. But the term "The Kay" is not historical.
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October 8, 2012 | 11:32 PM
It's not--nor is it intended to be. Spelling "K" as "Kay" was commonplace, as was the use of "Eye" and "Jay" for I and J street--the "the" is part of this new branding effort, not something based on historical use.

Personally, I'm no marketing whiz, but I'm kind of ambivalent about the "the." I'm not in love with it, but lack of historical precedent shouldn't rule out an attempt to bring attention to the positive changes happening downtown.
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October 9, 2012 | 12:02 PM
I agree with William. Ditch the The, which makes the drag sound like an L.A. freeway.
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October 8, 2012 | 11:54 PM
It's too ironic.
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October 9, 2012 | 8:33 AM
I agree with Marc... seems a little premature to re-brand the street with just street signs. I think increasing the power washing schedule to remove that stale, summer urine smell in half the doorways would do more to attract visitors than these signs, or perhaps updating the old purple banners around the lot at 8th & "Kay" to match the new branding effort. What about coordinating with JMA Ventures on the branding of Downtown Plaza to ensure the brands compliment eachother? One final suggestion- Why not subsidize a magazine/flower/candy stand somewhere on the street to reinforce the historic, urban feel of the district? Hell, it might not even have to be subsidized...

This may be a bit off-topic, but last week I witnessed a poor homeless man passed out & throwing up on himself on a park bench (with paramedics attending to him) at 8th & K street. In my head, I can't help but think of all the ironic post cards one could make with the phrase "Greetings from the Kay!"
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October 9, 2012 | 11:32 AM
I like the idea of working with JMA ventures on a co-branding effort - but I'd push for it to be complimentary and not the same. In the past, tying K Street Mall with Downtown Plaza proved detrimental and led to both of them going to shit.
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October 9, 2012 | 7:38 PM
While a cleaner city is nice, I don't think it is necessary to ensure the utter sterilization of downtown Sacramento before anything else can be allowed to happen there. It's impossibly to regulate public space to that level, especially in our era of limited resources, without becoming a Singapore-style police state (and some would argue we're too far along that road already.) Policies and programs that encourage pedestrian activity and eyes on the street function as a measure of social control--people are less willing to pee on a crowded street than a vacant street, so making changes that encourage pedestrian activity at all hours has a secondary consequence of making K a less comfortable place to P.

A lot of the ideas you suggest are also ideas that have been floating around K Street (in part, again, because of the presence of P) including Portland Loo-style urinals, and reintroducing news vendors and other street vendors to add urban interest as well as eyes on the street. The recently-started street busking program also works to that end--the buskers don't want their beautiful sounds accompanied by odious smells.
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October 9, 2012 | 9:45 AM
Good god does no one even proofread these articles? In the span of two paragraphs they get Martinez as being both male and female and quote her as saying "... and one thing that we've seen in the last couple of that has happening is..." which makes her sound incredibly bad or shows the journalist wasn't paying attention when she was speaking. Neither of those seem like a trustworthy voice for a news story.
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October 9, 2012 | 9:57 AM
They're quoting Bill Burg when they say that, you can see it in the intervening "paragraph" which states, "Burg concurred that the K Street’s new direction is connected to its history."
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October 9, 2012 | 4:09 PM
Good catch @MC101010: I fixed the missing word, see @PaulCox's comment Re: Male/female. We all make mistakes.
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I'm glad to see innovative marketing ideas! I was downtown on a Friday night at a K street restaurant, and it still looked and felt empty. There were people about, but no where near enough to make the place feel alive. What are the plans to bring more activities to Kay?
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October 9, 2012 | 9:53 AM
For what its worth, I prefer the actual term I have always heard used "On K" as in "Where is that new place?" -- "Down on K" is the reply. "Where will I see you later?" -- "On K, at 7th Street."

I scene outside the Crest is vibrant. Allowing cars has a side benefit.... it permit the safe loading and unloading of people and packages at store fronts and door to door service for "tipsy patrons" is valuable.

Civic types love the "branding process" but I would have waited until the 7th through 9th streets face-lift had some traction. This seems premature with a hint of desperation.
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October 9, 2012 | 12:49 PM
It's better to build momentum early then when the 700 block comes "The Kay" will be more established. Why wait? What good are hands if you're always sitting on them?
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October 9, 2012 | 10:03 AM
Marc / 20SomethingSac - Those are all good recommendations. Putting new street signs up isn't enough, but it is where we are starting.

The Kay is at a unique juncture in its growth. We’ve seen some positive momentum in the past year with 17 new businesses that have opened - plus a new owner at the Downtown Plaza. The Kay needs it to be unique and different from other areas in Sacramento. This is one way to support that growth and attract more businesses (like the magazine stand you recommended).

And, you're right. There is always more that can be done to improve the physical space. Unfortunately, some of the issues you mentioned regarding maintenance and homeless are urban realities that you’ll see other urban centers across the country. State Street in Santa Barbara, Pier 39 in San Francisco, Times Square in NYC – they face the same problems.

It all starts with ownership. Active businesses rather than empty storefronts create activity. Pedestrians that see issues and call them in help create change. Branding The Kay is one way to take back of ownership and we encourage you to help us in define what you want The Kay to be.
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October 10, 2012 | 1:28 PM
With the street signs, I feel like you guys are putting the bow on the gift before it's wrapped.
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Welcome to the K-Hole where everybody is K-Razy or K-homeless.
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October 9, 2012 | 12:50 PM
I thought you look familiar.
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October 9, 2012 | 4:53 PM
I must be K-Razy then 'cause I find myself there more and more.
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October 10, 2012 | 11:51 AM
@DowntownSacramento - I actually work on 6th and J so you probably have seen me whilst you were hanging out near Rite Aid with your buddies. The K-Y is full of crazy people and it stinks. Especially the bit between the downtown plaza and K-Bar.
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October 9, 2012 | 10:32 AM
I don't think comparing Times Square and Pier 39 to K Street is fair. Those areas have millions of visitors a year. There problems are obviously going to be much greater compared to an area where there is relatively little to do. It's not uncommon to see homeless throwing glass bottles on K street in the middle of the day. Jumping to a rebrand when you still have these kinds of things happening isn't going to help one bit. You can call it "The Kay" and put up fancy street signs, but people from the burbs and beyond (and from those in midtown) aren't interested in spending time in an area that can still feel unsafe to be in. It seems more logical to spend time and resources on getting to the core of the problem rather than putting a fancy dress on it.

Separate issue - I personally don't think "The Kay" is a very unique or progressive title for the district, but who knows, maybe everyone else likes it.
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October 9, 2012 | 1:08 PM
I would imagine the goal of "The Kay" would be to earn millions of visitors. If our leaders don't have those expectations then we need new leaders. The Haight Ashbury area in SF has many of the issues you have described and the area is very successful within its own community. I'm not saying that I welcome those situations but I'm acknowledging that I know it's there and understand that it will be part of the environment. I walk up and down all around downtown and midtown and have not witnessed glass on the street or see homeless people doing so. As a matter of fact: most of the homeless mind their own business, with the exception of two.

If she has a "fancy dress" in her closet, what good does it do her if she never gets to wear it. Life is too short to not be "fancy", when you can.
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October 9, 2012 | 3:29 PM
Are you saying that by simply calling it "The Kay" we are suddenly going to have millions of visitors on K Street? If so, you are obviously mistaken.

I work in Downtown and live in Midtown and trust me, K street from the mall east three blocks is about the worst of it on the grid. You need to do much more to attract a serious amount of visitation to K Street other than changing its name.
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October 9, 2012 | 4:25 PM
"If you read my previous comment, I said" 'goal'.

If the area is so hideous to you then why do you travel down K Street? Are you oblivious to some of the remodeling taking place on 8th & K - think the building name is KRESS-, the Mediterranean restaurant opening up on 9th and K? You're wrong. The worst blocks on the grid are from 10-12th on J Street. Those are gateway blocks that majority of visitors to our city see first.

BTW: you can't tell a city or visitors, "Hey we just power washed our streets and scared all the homeless away for you, come visit us!" A person can't start a business or continue a business with a statement like that. Therefore you need to rebrand and let the people judge for themselves. Don't forget that some people are not jaded like you and optimistic like me. For those who are jaded like you: they might give the place a second chance and really end up liking and visiting more often than not at all. What's to lose? The mostly developed blocks of K street are alive and vibrant, you should know, you smell the pee and see the lack of progress.
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October 9, 2012 | 7:45 PM
People from the burbs and beyond who are uncomfortable with the idea of visiting a place that isn't totally sanitized are never going to be all that comfortable in an urban downtown, no matter how much pre-emptive sanitization is attempted. People in Midtown are already pretty used to homeless people and visitors peeing on the neighborhood, even if we're getting kind of sick of it. But trying to impersonate a suburb has been a failing strategy in downtown Sacramento for over 40 years--it's time to stop trying, because there is a significant and growing number of people who do want an urban product, which K Street and downtown Sacramento can offer. That doesn't mean we can ignore social problems like homelessness and our shamefully collapsed social service system, but it does mean that the presence of poor people shouldn't prohibit activity and presence by folks from other socioeconomic strata. A city provides a variety of options for all sorts of people, not just a certain privileged class, and not just the most unfortunate. A city environment also creates greater economic opportunity for all involved.
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October 9, 2012 | 8:05 PM
You can try to talk yourself into thinking K Street doesn't smell like pee (which it does), is overrun by homeless (which it is) and is ready to be viewed by the greater area as a destination to shop and spend time (which it isn't) and is ready to have a new name, but that's not the truth. Every shopping distriction in the entire region, Galleria, Arden Fair, Sunrise Mall, etc. are all much safer, cleaner and more popular. I love downtown, I live in Poverty Ridge and I work in Downtown, but the facts are the facts. This area has changed a little and still has a LOT of work remaining to make it a district that can compete. Simply changing it's name to "The Kay" is not going to help one bit.
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October 9, 2012 | 8:37 PM
You seem to have convinced yourself that K Street can never be anything but a shopping mall that can compete with suburban shopping districts, which is more of a stretch than trying to pretend that parts of it don't smell like pee.
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October 10, 2012 | 2:48 PM
William, I think Marc said it best. You can't keep comparing K Street to San Francisco. Everyone who visits San Francisco looks the other way on the homeless and the urine smell because IT'S SAN FRANCISCO!

Using the dress analogy, it's like you're trying to sell us a stained Walmart dress by putting a nice bow on it, and when we complain, you point out that a high end fashion dress we like ALSO has a stain on it!
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edited on  October 10, 2012 | 9:17 PM
Yes, you can compare K Street to San Francisco. You can compare anything to anything. If I am violating some kind of civil statute by comparing two cities to each other, *any* two cities, then I suggest you prosecute, because I'm going to keep doing it.
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edited on  October 9, 2012 | 2:03 PM
The majority of the DSP budget comes through collection of a special tax assessment and through grants given usually to be used for specific purposes. Line items in budgets are allocated and approved by the DSP Board. The DSP Board is made up of a collection of downtown property owners. I've spoken to DSP staff and there are plans to increase power washing and get JMA Ventures involved more. The purple banners around the 800 Block corner are also in those re-branding plans from what I understand. 20SomethingSac, have you heard that is not the case?

Its easier to increase specific budget line items (like power washing) when the economy is doing well and property owners are more inclined to increase the special assessment they impose on themselves. Its also easier to increase specific budget line items when the DSP illustrates how it successfully implemented grant monies it received for a specific purpose. Value of downtown properties have not been impacted as much as the suburbs but they still have been impacted. The other hardship the last 5 years is that fewer significant projects that include dense housing have been completed because banking tightened up on new construction loans.

I imagine its been a bit tricky for the DSP; how to encourage and promote growth in downtown while at the same time facing budget challenges and less development. To make statements though describing DSP branding efforts as "premature" and that their budget "should instead be used elsewhere" aren't quite accurate. We should have deeper perspective on what is going on with K St and downtown both historically and going forward. We also need to note that despite the economic hurdles these past 5 years there is still progress being made.

I am encouraged. There has been momentum in downtown the past couple years after decades of trying to to fix some of the mistake of the past. Yes, some of those mistakes were unfortunately made by the City at the taxpayer's expense. This recent momentum though has resulted in a growth and value. Places like Ella, Mayahuel, Pizza Rock, Dive Bar, KBAR, Oishi, District 30, Broadacre, Blackbird, and Estelle's are giving legit hope. They are paving the way for more significant projects (with a good amount of housing) to start. We will soon enough see construction at the 700 Block and Marshall Hotel. The sale of Downtown Plaza to JMA Ventures is also key. A revamp of that combined with everything else already in motion will really change our downtown over the coming few years. Remember, K St from 10th-13th is already cleaned up. The projects I mentioned above all give hope that the rest of K St from 9th-7th and the mall itself will follow. The timing on the branding is right.
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October 9, 2012 | 11:29 AM
The Downtown Sacramento Partnership, along with The Sutter District and the newly formed "Handle District" prove that Self Assessment Districts can provide a value to the local community, while empowering local business owners to make decisions that best suit their needs. If that takes re-branding, signage, new business - that's fine. As long as they are self-assessing their revenue base and not taking from the city's already empty coffers - i could care less. I do agree, however, that "the kay" should be seen only as a start -and could end up doing more to damage the already horrible reputation, than good.
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The key is for those that own property and/or businesses in those special assessment districts to not "care less". Instead, the goal is to get them to come together and make sound decisions to improve their district through maintenance, promotions, events, advocacy, etc. Branding plays an important role in that.
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October 9, 2012 | 12:33 PM
Personally, I like it. To me it has Sacto personality, approachable, personable...not cynical, fly or uberhip. SoCal? Uh, not really.

And I can see it growing. When Downtown Plaza rebrands, this is a place JMA can spring from...and that the 700 and 800 blocks can pick up, evolving it into their own signatures on The Kay collectively making it a magnet.

To those who criticize this effort as "not enough", "too soon"...yes, right, of course. No one step, including the $100m invested to date is enough...but they are all unmistakable signs of progress.
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October 9, 2012 | 12:36 PM
I agree with "THE" being too SoCal. I have seen the changes, mostly bad, since the late 1960's when K was the street to visit for all your shopping needs. Back when there were a lot of upscale (and low scale) stores, tailors, florists, cobblers and specialty shops all with beautifully dressed windows to lure people in to see what was available. You could buy anything from Weinstocks or JJ Newberry's. I miss the charm of those old stores, perhaps efforts should be made to recreate those classic curved glass store fronts of the 20's and 30's, the wide wooden stair cases to the basement or 2nd floor restored rather than removed, and people would come back first for the nostalgia and then for the good stuff that that will be available. I for one would love to shop or dine there. If I want a "mall" experience (which I don't) I'll go to Arden Fair, Sunrise, or the Galleria. Just think how fun it would be to walk from Sacramento of the 1800's in old Sac, to the mid 20th century on "Kay."
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October 9, 2012 | 12:41 PM
Cool and all, but premature, as other commenters have mentioned. Maybe when it doesn't smell like pee or have homeless and hoodlums accosting people for money or there are tenants in the gorgeous old buildings on the 7th street end or they make changes to Downtown Plaza, maybe then a "branding change" will be in order. But if they do it now, the "brand" will just be associated with all the nasty crap still there. Don't get me wrong, I live and work in downtown and there are definitely some reasons worth going to K street, but you can't "brand" all the nasty stuff away.
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October 9, 2012 | 1:31 PM
I don't see a reason for people to walk to or through the 800-700 block yet. So I'm sure that visitors to "The Kay" will understand that the initial branding is to help businesses from 900-1300 initially because those are the only areas that have real activity. BUT if people look to the west then they will see the effort that "The Kay" is making to become greater. This could possibly have people curious and excited.
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October 9, 2012 | 1:32 PM
Something is better than nothing. Most of you Negative Nancys are already jaded by the area and the businesses that exist cannot earn your business. Might as well bring in new fresh people who might appreciate the area and what it could become.
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October 9, 2012 | 2:14 PM
Amen
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October 9, 2012 | 2:19 PM
I like it, I like it. But the 'THE' seems contrived. I would also like to see I go back to 'EYE' and J back to 'JAY'. It feels historic and fresh, at the same time. Maybe even charming. Definitely no 'THE'
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October 9, 2012 | 2:47 PM
i don't get "downtown" very often anymore. The new name doesn't make it any more attractive but seeing the changes in print might help. Nothing new is in the paper except the same old stuff. Just a little better press from the Bee and the radio stations as well as the TV stations on their own would be appreciated. After all most of them live here too. The Kay doesn't exactly light up the town.
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October 9, 2012 | 2:51 PM
I like the idea of bringing new life to K Street Mall and applaud the effort(s). If signs with a new name will help - so be it!. I like the idea of spelling out "Kay"; the history behind the spelling was very interesting. But using "The Kay" - a bit too pretentious for this native Sacamentan. Sounds like we're opening (yet another) bar in the area.
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October 9, 2012 | 3:40 PM
I have to wonder, will this appear to the business owners in Old Sac to be direct competition? Can downtown really support two districts? I am totally in favor of revamping "k","Kay" whichever, but the retailers in Old Sac shouldn't suffer for it. Maybe if a way could be found to make it all one continuous area,like walking bridges with plants, flowers, trees and benches. I have seen this done in other cities. It can be beautiful, and everybody wins. Just a thought.
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October 9, 2012 | 8:11 PM
On the contrary, this could (and should) be a way to connect Old Sacramento merchants to the businesses in the rest of downtown Sacramento. The artificial barrier of Interstate 5 keeps the hundreds of thousands of visitors to Old Sacramento out of the rest of downtown--an artificial barrier, but hopefully not one that is permanently insurmountable.
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October 12, 2012 | 7:42 PM
why would downtown only have one district, or only two districts? why not a district for each unique part of downtown?
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October 9, 2012 | 4:14 PM
I live downtown and there is a smell of urine between 7th and 9th Strs on K St especially during the summer months. I've been harassed twice by "kids/thugs" that hang around 7th and K Strs and especially where the walkway narrows by 8th street where the hole in the ground is. It's not as noticeable during "working hours" but any other time kids/thugs just hang looking for trouble. Weekends are the worst generally. I now try to avoid even walking on those portions of K Street as I'm tired of being mad dogged and feeling like I'm walking through a big porta potty with the urine smell. Hopefully this can be turned around but until there is a constant police/security presence on the light rail station at 7th and K and between 7th and 8/9th Strs this will continue. Security and I don't mean the ones that wear uniforms and talk to the kids/thugs and let them do whatever they want.
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October 10, 2012 | 8:20 AM
I dont have anything against a good old fashioned rebrand but "The Kay" is way to forced. Just make some pretty banners and signs that say K Street. I would much rather hang on on K Street this Friday, than go to The Kay?????
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October 10, 2012 | 8:48 AM
Wow, so much negativity. I applaud the effort to improve K Street, even if it happens in small steps. To argue over "the" and declare the branding a failure before it's happened seems like people just want the improvements to fail.
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October 12, 2012 | 7:39 PM
@123 - you're totally right - no organization, not even the city has enough budget to snap their fingers and make one whole street better all at once - it's a combination of a lot of little projects which will make it a great place to be. there will be victories and hurdles along the way, but eventually the kay will sustain itself and we can move on to the next area that needs help!
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October 10, 2012 | 3:45 PM
Great idea, let's apply it to other streets too. The Eye? The Big O? The Pee?

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October 10, 2012 | 3:51 PM
I've worked a block from what I still think of as "the K Street Mall" for the past seven years, and I've been living in midtown since before anyone called it "Midtown" (i.e., the mid-90s). There's never been any reason in particular to spend any time or any money on K Street between 7th and 13th, and all of the absolutely well-intentioned recent campaigns notwithstanding, there still isn't.

As far as the new street signs ("re-branding") go, they're fine I guess. The recent "Cars Return To K Street" endeavor -- a botch, as cars have not returned to K Street and I'm now made to worry about jaywalking tickets every time I walk to Jordanian dudes' convenience store -- so cluttered area with all the additional traffic signals and black barrier posts and strategically placed planters and re-fitted railings and yellow bumps and bike racks and other wingdings that I can't see how a few new signs proclaiming "The Kay" would even be noticed.

And of course, the local yokels who make K Street what it is staked their claim to that stretch a LONG time ago -- before a lot of the folks now brainstorming "re-branding" ideas were even born. They've stuck it out through a zillion revitalizations since the early 1970s, and aren't going anywhere.

By the way, today on my daily visit to the Jordanian dudes' convenience store, I mentioned to the guy behind the counter that soon his business will not be located on K Street, but indeed in The Kay, "that's spelled "K-A-Y." He had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.
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edited on  October 11, 2012 | 12:30 AM
Jeffeff, there's PLENTY of reasons to visit K St. How blind are you? K St between 10th to 13th has been dramatically cleaned up. Have you tried any of the new businesses? Mayahuel is one of the best Mexian restaurants we have. Ella is a fine dining place to bring friends from out of town who always walk away impressed. Same with Esquire Grill. I had a great time recently watching Batman & Spiderman in IMAX. District 30, Pixza Rock, & Dive Bar are packed all the time and not just on weekends. Pyramid, Ambrosia, Crest Cafe, Crest Theater, KBAR, the Cabaret, Social, Broadacre, & Estelle's are all great options. As are Chops, Parlare, Grange, and Marilyn's for live music. The City made major Streetscape improvements on the 700 Block and at Lima Park. They relocated a light rail stop to 7th St from K St. The mall just got new owners! A MAJOR redevelopment project is aiming to break ground soon on the 700 Block that will provide around 15 new retail concepts and 200 new residents. The storefront of the Kress Building on the 800 Block was recently remodeled. 24 hr fitness expanded big time and is packed. The Greyhound Station finally relocated. Cars are back on K St and the Hotel Berry just got renovated. The Marshall Hotel plans to be remodeled. California Family Fitness plans to be open next to Dive Bar. I pound the pavement around K St every damn day for the past 10 years. I am shocked someone would say they've worked downtown and not noticed all the improvement and not be able to come up with one reason to come have fun with friends downtown or get really smart and LIVE downown.
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October 10, 2012 | 8:00 PM
I as well have seen a very positive shift in the atmosphere along K street in the last seven or so years. I walk along and operate a light rail on K and am very pleased with what the DSP has managed to accomplish. I also live in area and think the branding effort will bring new business and recreation in addition to reintroducing Kay to people who otherwise would stay away.
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October 12, 2012 | 7:19 PM
I'm excited to SEE and BE a part of the EFFORT in making our city better.
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October 12, 2012 | 7:37 PM
@camille7444 you sound like my kind of girl, you watched Batman AND Spiderman at IMAX!!!
@jeffeff - I see cars on K all the time, what you talkin' about? I drive on it everyday! I also don't slow down for people "jay" walking so, watch out. :) jk.
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October 14, 2012 | 3:37 PM
I have a business on K Street, and I hate this idea.
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October 14, 2012 | 8:55 PM
Not Okay. Dumb idea. Perception branding doesn't change reality. The K Street mall road way needs to be painted gold like the Tower bridge and turn it into another tourist attraction. Then you'll see shop owners and customers flock there. Maybe not that idea but something that draws people there on a permanent basis. Maybe JMA Ventures plans for the Downtown Plaza can be the catalyst for a rejuvenated K Street. Name change is just dumb.
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edited on  October 16, 2012 | 1:36 PM
Uh huh. I took my kid to see Alice In Wonderland at the IMAX theater a couple years ago. I went out for drinks at The Cosmopolitan with co-workers one night. Last year we had our office Christmas party at Pizza Rock. I met a friend for lunch one day recently at Mayahuel. Not to mention visits here and there to Ambrosia, the Burger Inn, Marilyn's, Estelle's . . . the places were all just fine, but none these experiences prompted me to exclaim, "WOW! I GOTTA come back to K Street ASAP!!"

I am impressed with the Hotel Berry -- I especially like how they left the old painted billboard ("MODERATE RATES") on the north side of the building. I just didn't know we were including it in "K Street".

I've been working out at 24 Hour Fitness on 7th & K since it opened in the original configuration. That's a whole other discussion.

But mainly of course, I'd be very interested if you could point me toward any substantiation of the "MAJOR redevelopment project [which] is aiming to break ground soon on the 700 Block that will provide around 15 new retail concepts and 200 new residents".
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