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Police: Bystander killed after gunfight at 28th and J Streets in Midtown

by Jared Goyette, published on August 18, 2012 at 5:28 AM

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This article was produced in partnership with Ed Fogle at SacMav.com

A man in his 30s was killed during an early morning gunfight in the parking lot next to the Ampm gas station at the intersection of 28th and J streets in Midtown, according to the Sacramento Police Department.

Police spokesman Sgt. Andrew Pettit said that while it is still early in the investigation, the evidence police have collected so far indicates that the victim may have been an innocent bystander who was caught in the crossfire as two subjects fired at each other from opposite corners of 28th and J streets. 

“It appears right now that the person that was shot didn’t have a relationship with either of the shooters,” Pettit said at the scene early Saturday morning.

Pettit said the police were dispatched at 12:35 a.m. after receiving calls about gunshots in the area and a victim laying in the parking lot. Detectives believe the exchange may have started near the Blimpie parking lot on K Street, and that the shooting did not appear to be a driveby, according to Pettit.

Nelson Rangel Junior, 40, said he was walking from a nearby bar, on his way to meet the victim and his friends when the shooting happened. He said he heard gun shots, and, as he got to the scene, saw  that the victim was bleeding from a head wound.

"There was blood everywhere, he'd been hit," Junior said.

The parking lot and the gas station are popular hangouts for crowds leaving the cluster of bars and restaurants on J Street between 27th and 28th Streets. The area has drawn increased scrutiny from residents in recent months, as a spat of incidents has lead some to believe that the bars aren’t doing enough to keep the area safe.

Robert Velarde, 50, said he was walking in Marshall Park across the street when he heard the shots. He later watched as paramedics performed chest compressions on the victim before the man was taken away in an ambulance.

He said he thinks more should be done to make the area more secure late at night.

“If you live around here you want to be in safe a neighborhood, and Saturday night is not a safe night, that’s for sure,” Velarde said.

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Statement from Police Spokesman Sgt. Andrew Pettit early Saturday morning:

“Early this morning around 12:35 a.m. in the intersection of J Street and 28th Street here in downtown Sacramento, officers responded to the sounds of shots fired. One witness advised that they actually saw a subject that was shot, laying in a parking lot just west of us here at ampm.

When officers got here that’s when they saw the male. He’s described as a male, white, in his 30s., wth an apparent gunshot wound to his upper body. Medical staff arrived on scene and transported him to an area hospital.

Based on interviews we obtained here on the scene and information we gathered and the evidence, it appears that there were two separate individuals shooting at each other and this victim was shot in the middle of the gunfire.

So at this point right now, we’re still looking at all the evidence that we have, CSI and homicide have been called out here and hopefully we’ll get some more information for you as leads develop."

The press release:

The Sacramento Police Department is investigating an early morning shooting that left a male in his 30s deceased.

On August 18, 2012 at 12:35 a.m., police were called to 28th and J Street regarding the sounds of gunshots and a male who had been shot. Upon arrival, officers located the victim in a parking lot with a gunshot wound. Medical personnel arrived on scene and transported the victim to a nearby hospital where he was later pronounced deceased.

The Sacramento Police Department's Homicide Unit and Crime Scene Investigations Unit responded to the scene. It was reported that shots were fired during an altercation between two groups near 28th and J Street. Based on the preliminary investigation, it appears the victim had no involvement in the dispute and was hit by one of the rounds fired across the parking lot. Detectives are continuing to actively investigate the circumstances that led to this homicide.

The Sacramento Police Department urges anyone with information pertaining to this crime to contact the dispatch center at (916) 264-5471 or Crime Alert at (916) 443-HELP (4357) or text in a tip to 274637 (CRIMES). Enter SACTIP followed by the tip information. Callers can remain anonymous and may be eligible for a reward of up to $1,000.

 

Jared Goyette is the editor of The Sacramento Press.

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August 18, 2012 | 6:48 AM
Where is the gd police at this hour? Cut council, police chief salaries if you have to in order to hire a few more cops and station them in late night incident prone areas on the grid. This is sad and can not be tolerated. This ain't the old west.
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August 18, 2012 | 8:39 AM
A significant portion of the officers assigned for duty at this hour.....are right in the middle of the grid. Not to mention the number of off-duty officers who provide security to some of these venues along with the chippees, pulling over DUI's.

Try placing a call for service, Thurs, Fri or Sat Night after about 9:30 PM....until 2:30 AM....anything less than "suspect with a gun"...."it may be a while, we have higher priority calls"!
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August 18, 2012 | 9:40 AM
The Sacramento Police Officer union is the one who makes the decision to throw junior officers under the bus to protect the gold plated benefits for senior officers.

As long as the public continues to support candidates who are just stooges for the public employee unions, this is what you will get. Steve Hansen is the latest puppet, taking thousands of dollars from police interests while claiming in public events that he isn't. When we let the SPOA write the rules for police staffing, you end up with dead bodies.

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August 18, 2012 | 10:34 PM
@ TVOR What is your point? Yeah so what if there are "significant portion of the officers assigned for duty" -in the grid? That means nothing here. There's still not enough cops for the amount of activity going. Having lived in other cities I'm shocked at the lack of police presence in Midtown on busy nights. As you say they may be too involved with trying to haul in DUIs. And while a life is a life anywhere- to put it in crude economic terms- there's a more at stake with something like this in Midtown than another part of the city.
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August 18, 2012 | 7:00 AM
If its known to be a hangout area after patronizing the bars, there should be a greater law enforment presence, duh!
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August 18, 2012 | 7:50 AM
Just as likely related to the presence of the freeway as to the presence of the bars. The freeways are enormous crime facilitators.
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August 18, 2012 | 8:29 AM
Pure Unsubstantiated Spin. As a resident, who has witnessed the transformation of the 2700 Block of J st to its current state of "Roadhouse" mentality....the freeways simply convey these gun packing guest to the bar venues.

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edited on  August 18, 2012 | 9:31 AM
What's the big deal? This is to be expected in Midtown. Those macho guys were just having fun. This is the Midtown party scene--not the river scene. I read that Marshall School Assoc. leaders love the bar scene there. 28th & J/K ? Isn't that near them? They must have been there having fun too. Wasn't that fight in the alley about a couple weeks ago around there too? That was fun to watch. Midtown partying draws everybody and is great for the city. If you don't like it, don't go or move.
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edited on  August 18, 2012 | 9:53 AM
"What if you knew "him" and found "him" dead on the ground" ? (Neil Young)

Would you still think the Midtown Entertainment/Bar scene is moving in the right direction?

"Nelson Rangel Junior, 40, said he was walking from a nearby bar, on his way to meet the victim and his friends when the shooting happened. He said he heard gun shots, and, as he got to the scene, saw the victim was bleeding from a head wound. “There was blood everywhere, he’s been hit,” Junior said."

Is this what Nick Miller was referring to in his latest "The Battle for Midtown Continues..."

http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/battle-for-midtown-continues/content?oid=7176663

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August 18, 2012 | 10:38 AM
That's one thing Nick's article missed--this "battle" has real casualties
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August 18, 2012 | 5:26 PM
Adovcate: Regarding the Marshall School/New Era Park Neighborhood Association leaders, do not believe everything you read. With Bill Burgua, I was co-chair of the neighborhood association for five years. I am currently still a member of the Board. I personally, with Bill Burgua, have challenged all the way to the Administrative Judge-level, the granting of a liquor license to a bar on the 2700 block of J Street. The bar was G.V. Hurley's, which was replaced by The Red Lotus, and is now The Red Rabbit.
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August 18, 2012 | 10:39 PM
"This is to be expected in Midtown." Really? advocate you have a lousy outlook on things. How is having fun related to this poor guy getting killed? And you got 7 thumbs up! What a bunch of ....
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August 19, 2012 | 1:52 AM
Thank you so much for making my point George! As you point out two unsustainable bar/restaurants have gone out of business and how many years has been since we challenged the over-concentration of liquor licenses in the area? Ironically it was the same time period that the MSNA board found out that you had accepted a large financial gift from one of the properties on the 2700 block of J. You admitted it on SacPress but defended it as "that was a long long time ago." So since I have moved when HAS the board of MSNEPNA even questioned the conditions of a liquor permit or business license, i.e.. Bar West, in the neighborhood. Other than fighting parking relief what has the board done except plan social events?
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August 19, 2012 | 7:34 AM
There's a number of things to say here.

The police cannot be at every bar in town simply because we are firing them daily, 'cause there ain't no money, so cutting salaries is pretty stupid, but all late night businesses need to hire their own security personnel who now need to carry firearms.

As far as banks...these guys have their own money and most banks have a sign on the door that says no hats and such. Like this is going to stop a bank robber? How dumb is that in this economy. They need someone in front of the front door to stop these guys from getting inside first. No hat, no head-covering of any kind and then you can come inside and maybe after you show identification.

The guy that thought it's just a couple of macho guys having fun down there on 28th needs to be in the middle of the next shootout. lol.

We will become another Stockton. You wanna see that here? I doubt it.

Donate to the Guardian Angels instead of spending money needlessly on your next two $10 drinks...can't hurt.



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August 18, 2012 | 11:07 AM
Voice of reason and Bill: Thanks. Good points. Voice of reason: As to SN&R and its article and other coverage. You forget that midtown is not the river. Do an article similar to the river one for midtown? No way, that would mean a reversal of its promotional "more is never enough" partying scene.
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August 18, 2012 | 12:06 PM
Third murder in a decade. Last was someone sitting in their car at the gas pumps at the Arco. Before that it was a woman that had left the Blue Cue that was shot and killed behind the drivers seat at a stop light a few blocks down 28th. There was also the shooting on the patio of Harlows with 13 plus shots fired, several hitting cars across J. Amazingly there was only a wounding with that incident. That combined with the armed robbery of two women at 17th and J that had just left Harlows brought security patrols to the neighborhood. The bars stopped the security as soon as they felt the surbanites felt safe again. We through up our hands and moved out. And yes Advocate, since then the officers of the Marshall School New Era Park Neighborhood association have done nothing but encourage more bars and nightclubs.
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August 18, 2012 | 7:01 PM
Shame on you Bill. Are you really blaming the Marshall School New Era Neighborhood Association for this senseless murder. You should be ashamed for using this terrible incident to further your agenda. Quite frankly, I'm sick of the self-righteous behavior of you, Vito, Dale, etc. You think this neighborhood was only safe when you three had your little fiefdom. No one else knows what is right for the residents except you. Everyone but you is trying to ruin the neighborhood. No one has encouraged more bars and restaurants...we just try to work out the best way to make it happen. Get over yourself and stop being so critical of the neighborhood association. We live in this neighborhood, we love this neighborhood, and we want is best for the neighborhood.
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August 19, 2012 | 4:25 PM
Bill: If ever there was a time for cooler heads to prevail, this would be it. First, I want to offer my condolences to the family and friends of Joesph A. Long. I also want to voice my sympathy to the unfortunate individuals who witnessed this senseless killing.

Next, I would like to remind Bill, Dale, et al., that this is still "America" where we are supposed to presume innocence instead of guilt. Bill, I would hope that you're just grieving and not just looking for another excuse to attack the bars and your former neighbors. If using this issue to attack the bars is your goal then you have sunk to a new low. Shouldn't we have all the facts of this tragedy before we indict the restaurants and bars on J Street? Most of the restaurants/bars on J Street are well run operations and concerned about being a good neighbor.

As for the Marshall School/New Era Neighborhood Association comment, I'm perplexed, Bill. Are you really faulting a neighborhood association for trying to work together with local businesses? During these hard economic times, you would suggest that we diminish our tax-base? Is trying to coexist with our business neighbors a bad thing? How has declaring war work out? The "usual" methods were employed for Pour House on Q Street and it still opened. How would you suggest we proceed?
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August 19, 2012 | 4:36 PM
What "usual methods" were employed for Pour House? How was MSNEPNA involved?
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August 20, 2012 | 11:28 AM
There have been comments removed in this thread because they violated our Rules of Conduct. Please keep in mind that we do not tolerate personal attacks and encourage everyone to engage in civil debate.

Thanks to everyone for participating in the dialogue.
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August 18, 2012 | 4:49 PM
Thanks Bill for your more accurate accounting and your confirmation of the irresponsible attitudes and actions of the Marshall School NA board. Tragically, I had forgotten those deaths and the many injuries. Remember when the young man who was killed outside Streets of London and there was a big hullabaloo? But only TEMPORARILY? Then it all died down and things went back to normal. This will too. But let less than this violent criminal behavior occur on the river and all the government officials, TV and other media get hot and excited about it---including party promoters SN&R!
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edited on  August 18, 2012 | 6:21 PM
There's an edge to midtown I like. I am NOT saying I like violent crime...but the notion of safety is phiric...and I like the edge here. I like the ink people wear, I like the occasional wiff of herb in the air, the smiles of one too many, the occasional piles of trash and excrement, the piratical alleys. If I wanted perfect, quieter or safer...I'd move to the leafy burbs.
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August 18, 2012 | 7:34 PM
I want the weed smoking tattooed folks to be safer too.
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August 18, 2012 | 8:45 PM
One of my close friends that made an incredible difference in my life was senselessly shot last night. No need to throw blames or angry words. We loved him, he will be missed with all our hearts. Never thought I would have to see him go, especially like this. I spoke to him about an hour or so beforehand. He was swing-dancing. Hardly sinister. A greater police presence could not have kept this from happening. No amount of throwing blame around will bring our dear friend back.
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August 18, 2012 | 10:42 PM
Sorry for your loss.
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August 19, 2012 | 7:48 AM
CTF: Thank you for taking time away from processing your friend's death to post your comment.
People do not always act their best in the face of senseless tragedy. My neighbors and I
are sorry for your loss.
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edited on  August 19, 2012 | 9:20 AM
Mark, I read and apparently many others too, read the Advocate posting as satire. What he/she wrote is repeatedly thrown in the faces of those who have tried to make midtown safer and more livable by opposing more bars/clubs and the related out-of-control party life and over concentration of bars. Haven't you read those postings that tell us we should move if we don't like the party scene, including some nearby neighbors?
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edited on  August 19, 2012 | 9:44 AM
Reed: You misinterpret Bugua's comments. A wise property and neighborhood preservationist once said in words to this effect that "our properties and our neighborhoods existed before we came upon the scene and with constructive stewardship, will be here after we leave. So we don't own either but are stewards with a responsibility to leave both in a better condition than we found them."

Due to Vito and other's tireless work over many years, you found the neighborhood a place you wanted to invest and live. So it is better than when he and those others moved here. Burgua did the same before he left." The question is: What have YOU done or are you doing? How will both be better off when you leave? So far all I see in your postings are narrowly focused accusations, negativity, bitching and moaning--all that seem to be self-centered with no thought to the betterment of the entire neighborhood.
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edited on  August 19, 2012 | 1:37 PM
Dale, you make some big leaps here. First, Reed may have made his desicion to live in midtwn not because of the work of Vito et al but perhaps because of the work of the restaurant and club owners. Second, "better off when you leave" is pretty subjective. Better in your view, or his? Perhaps better in his view means a lifelier, not quieter scene.
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August 19, 2012 | 9:58 AM
UPDATE: The coroner’s office has released the identity of the victim as Joseph Long, Age 32 from Carmichael.
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edited on  August 20, 2012 | 1:01 PM
MyQuest: You write totally uninformed of what that part of midtown was like 25--35 years ago when the city's redevelopment plans were to tear Reed's and other quality housing down and replace with two and three story low Section 8 and other very low income housing. Now tell me that Reed and you would have moved into one of those! THAT destruction is what Vito and others stopped and attracted Reed and you and enabled non-alcohol businesses on J to extend their life and profit. If you moved here just for the partying, then walk a little farther. There are lots of other places nearby.

You talk about subjectivity--LIVELIER for whom now? And how livelier--like the 3rd murder in a decade that BIll states? Livelier and healthier environment for the many families with children who moved here, got to know each other and safely picnicked or played in Marshall Park evenings and weekends those years?

Harlows was the quality Alhambra Cafe then with excellent food and entertainment later at night. Favorite gathering place for locals, guests and some East Sac, Campus Commons and Land Park residents. Successful Simm's hardware store, stand-in-line popular healthy breakfast and lunch restaurant, vacuum and carpet store, A block south was a profitable Raley's Super Market, candy store, card shop, watch and shoe repair--all that many residents walked to and from. Houses lined K Street across from the Sutters Fort. Would you or Reed have liked that? I doubt it--too quiet I'm sure.

Think of others and do your research next time before you think you know all there is to know about an area.
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edited on  August 19, 2012 | 7:02 PM
Sincere condolences to ctf (posted above) and his friend's family.

As he says, "No amount of throwing blame around will bring our dear friend back."

The people who have worked on these issues with business and city leaders don't believe "throwing blame around" is the answer, either. They refer to existing legal and planning guidelines to encourage business and city leaders to create mixed use and active neighborhoods that work for everyone and are not (illegally) overconcentrated with bars, nightclubs and their attendant problems (including parking in and disrupting residential neighborhoods).

The current atmosphere -- created in spite of those legal guidelines -- led to ctf's friends death, and death, injury and harm (including degrading quality of life and property values) to many others. If business and city leaders chose to follow those guidelines instead, the atmosphere would be different and his friend might not be gone.

We can have - or could have had - a vibrant, mixed used Midtown that was more balanced in terms of serving business' and residents' needs, and not favoring one at the expense of the other; with a local economy that supported many venues, entertainments and services; that wasn't dependent mainly on alcohol and visitors with no investment in, or respect for, the neighborhoods.

That's what the laws and guidelines are intended for. Balance.

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August 20, 2012 | 1:07 PM
Very well said Marion and numerous studies and cities' experiences have shown what you write to be true. Maybe Sacramento will catch up someday--IF it is not too late.
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