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Travelers' thoughts about firearms on Amtrak

by Mariel Tagg, published on December 2, 2010 at 5:07 PM

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With news of Amtrak’s new firearm policy to take effect Dec. 15, The Sacramento Press wanted to get an idea of what travelers think about the decision.

First-time Amtrak traveler Tina Stephens simply doesn’t see the need for such a policy.

“I don’t see any reason why anybody would need a firearm on the train anyway,” Stephens said. “I see no need for people to carry one if the people who work for Amtrak don’t have to carry them. That just opens yourself up for a lot of problems.”

Christina Miller of Redding also has mixed feelings about the policy.

“I don’t see a problem with it, but then again the terrorist thing is kind of scary,” Miller said. “If I were a hunter and I was traveling, I would want to be able to travel with what I need to hunt. But I’m not sure how I feel about that.”

Mike Goedert of Iowa sees no problem with it.

“I guess I don’t have any problem with it as long as they separate it from the individual who brings it aboard, I guess that would be fine,” Goedert said. “It’s just like any other apparel you would bring like a knife or something that you can stick in your luggage and they let you bring that aboard, so I guess it’s allright.”

Sharon, a frequent Amtrak traveler, isn’t comfortable with the idea.

“I think it’s really unusual. I think that it will cause everyone to be searched more, and I’m not comfortable with it,” she said. “As a frequent traveler, I have wondered why we haven’t had more awareness of baggage, and I think that this could cause a big problem.”

On the other hand, Spencer Schilling, 23, is just starting to travel on Amtrak a lot and approves of the policy as long as it’s done right.

“It sounds fine to me as long as they’re authorized to have the gun in the first place,” Schilling said. “As long as they’re legally allowed to and it’s locked on-board, then it’s fine with me.”

Sacramentan Annie Lee said she thinks it sounds OK in theory, but could be dangerous in practice.

“I just think that if they’re going to be vigilant about checking it, and they’re going to make sure that the arms are going to be locked, then that should be OK,” Lee said. “My only concern is then other people may try to abuse this law and take it further. Once you open the door to allow firearms, people may start to allow firearms on that are not locked or unloaded. There’s always going to be loopholes people are going to try to get in between.”

Margarita Garcia, however, said she doesn’t think the new policy is a good idea under any circumstance.

“I don’t think its a good idea because there’s a lot of kids, and even if they’re locked away and stuff, you never know. There’s a lot of crazy people out there, and you just never know.”

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December 2, 2010 | 5:37 PM
The new Amtrak policy is basically the same as the policy for airlines, except it is even more strict as it requires 24 hour advance notification. I think people have some impression that the new policy allows concealed or open carry in people's carry-on luggage or on one's person. This is not true!

The new policy allows people to transport firearms, unloaded, in locked containers, in checked baggage only (meaning baggage the passenger will not have access to during the trip.) It, like the regulations allowing firearms transportation on airplanes (and not too dissimilar from the laws regarding transporting firearms in personal automobiles) are intended to allow people who are traveling to hunt, or participate in firearms sporting events, or transporting firearms to sell, to do so.

One other thing to keep in mind is that the firearms ban that this supplants is relatively new: prior to concerns about terrorism post-9/11, there was no ban on firearms on Amtrak trains and the rules were considerably less stringent than they are now. This change merely rescinds the total ban on firearms on board Amtrak, and makes it merely slightly more restrictive than the rules for airline passengers.
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December 2, 2010 | 6:35 PM
Thanks for clarifying that, Bill. I wasn't sure what the new policy is!
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December 2, 2010 | 7:17 PM
Big journalism fail! You should have summarized the policy at the very beginning. Instead you require every reader to take a detour through some link. I won't do that. I still don't know what the policy is and I really don't care. I'm just annoyed at whoever wrote this.
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December 2, 2010 | 8:21 PM
You guys are totally right. I should not have assumed people know what I'm talking about. Thanks, Bill, for making it clear.
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December 2, 2010 | 9:53 PM
Despite the new policy only allowing firearms in checked baggage there is nothing to stop someone from bringing a gun or any other weapon or contraband on an Amtrak train. I wouldn't be surprised if people already carry concealed weapons on board and/or smuggle drugs on the train.
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December 2, 2010 | 10:44 PM
I suppose the fact that it is illegal doesn't really count as "nothing to stop someone"--what do you suggest? Searches and X-rays similar to airport security measures? That would require considerable re-engineering of Amtrak stations, some of which are basically just unattended platforms.
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December 3, 2010 | 8:47 PM
It would not affect the policy, but it would not counter any existing laws about firearms that are banned in some states but not others. California's "assault weapon" laws ban many specific makes and models of firearms, or firearms with certain cosmetic features, and it is illegal to bring a firearm prohibited by state law into the state. And, obviously, the same applies to states and cities with stricter firearms laws than California. The policy does not specify anything about the firearm itself, it is concerned with safe storage, like the very similar policies for checking firearms on airlines.
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December 3, 2010 | 10:36 AM
Bill, I really hope that Amtrak doesn't get locked down like flying has. Since the TSA took over security at the airports I've been avoiding flying. The level of paranoia is just insane for plane travel these days. I could definitely see the people behind TSA-craziness coming to Amtrak and fueling a fear campaign to get stricter security. Is a dose of radiation or an 'enhanced' pat-down in our future for train travel?
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December 3, 2010 | 8:48 PM
As I recall, the people behind TSA-craziness were the federal government (the previous administration.) Amtrak doesn't have the budget to create controlled-access boarding points at every Amtrak station in the country (and, as mention, some Amtrak stops don't even have buildings, let alone staff.)
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December 3, 2010 | 2:55 PM
It's nice to see so many different viewpoints on this new policy shown in the article. If I rode the train or carried a gun I'd offer up an opinion of my own:)
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December 7, 2010 | 12:07 AM
Personally, I think the link directly to the Amtrak news bulletin is a nice touch. Traditionally, I guess the article should have summarized the policy change, but I think this is the future of news writing. I already knew about the policy change when I read this article. More summarizing of the policy would have been tedious and I probably would have lost interest. If I were a person who didn't know anything about the Amtrak policy, I would have followed the link, then returned to the article if I deemed it of interest. Since I already knew, I read what other people were saying, and that is why I read this article. The headline does its job perfectly. Kudos.
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