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Sacramentans react to landmark Prop. 8 overturn

by Brandon Darnell, published on August 4, 2010 at 5:12 PM

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Sacramentans were expectedly divided following Wednesday’s ruling overturning Proposition 8, which amended the California Constitution to ban same-sex marriage.

Chief Judge Vaughn Walker of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California determined Wednesday that the ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

“Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that opposite-sex couples are superior to same-sex couples,” according to the decision in the case, Perry v. Schwarzenegger.

Vaughn also declared that Prop. 8 “prevents California from fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis.”

“It was our highest hope for the outcome,” said Tina Reynolds, founder of Equality Action Now, a gay rights group that formed Nov. 5, 2008, the day after Prop 8 was passed by California voters.

“It’s the very best ruling that he could have made,” she added. “It’s equality across the board. We called all the county marriage licensers and told them they’d be busy.”

Reynolds said marriages wouldn’t be possible Wednesday pending the court’s formal ruling, but she expected them to start up in the next few days.

Carla Hass, spokeswoman for the Sacramento-based Protect Marriage, which supports banning gay marriage, declined to comment Wednesday after the decision, saying all public announcements would be made on the group’s website.

As of press time, the group’s website had not been updated.

Groups for keeping marriage between a man and a woman are likely to appeal the decision.

“What a wonderful, wonderful day,” State Senate President pro-Tem Darrel Steinberg said at a press conference Wednesday. “The long, long race for equality is not yet over, but I think we lapped the other side.”

Steinberg added that Judge Walker taught all Californians and Americans a civics lesson.

The ruling was of special importance to Nicole Scanlan, who legally married her wife in the five-month window before Prop. 8 was enacted.

“We are already legally married, but my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters will now be equal,” she said.

Scanlan said she knows firsthand the feeling of being a “second-class citizen” and the change in that feeling when she was legally married.

“When you are able to do something fundamental that all Americans have the right to do...the feeling is indescribable,” she said.

Other couples rejoiced as well, including a pair of women who already tried to marry today and vowed at the press conference that they will be going back to get a marriage license every day until they are granted one.

“I think they should be able to get married,” said Ashlin Washington, who works in Sacramento. “I don’t see anything wrong with it.”

Law student Viana Barbu agreed.

“That’s fantastic,” she said. “Legally, it was the right thing to do. You’re technically not supposed to amend the (California) Constitution that way anyway.”

Though many agreed with the court’s rulings, just as many were opposed, basing their arguments on both religious beliefs and the fact that Prop. 8 was a voter-approved measure.

“Does it matter if you vote on anything anymore?” asked one man in front of the Capitol who declined to give his name.

“I don’t believe in gay marriage,” said Michael Cato. “God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. To me, this is an abomination.”

Sacramento resident Larry Carter agreed, saying the decision should be reversed, as it is against his religious beliefs.

Not all religious sects are opposed to gay marriage, however.

The Very Reverend Brian Baker, dean of the Trinity Episcopal Cathedral, said he will happily marry same-sex couples.

“I am thrilled that same-sex couples in the state of California will be able to marry again,” he said at a press conference Wednesday.

Baker added that it is important not to compel anyone to perform a marriage ceremony against his or her beliefs.

Prop. 8 was approved by 52 percent of California voters in 2008 and stopped gays from being married. That ended a five-month period in which about 18,000 gay couples were married.

Two gay couples brought the matter to federal court in January, and Wednesday’s decision was effectively the culmination of that case.

Photos of press conference, Tina Reynolds and Darrel Steinberg by Kati Garner.

Brandon Darnell is a staff reporter for The Sacramento Press.

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August 5, 2010 | 7:01 AM
Excellent balanced article Brandon. I do have a question. The figure of 52 percent of voters in California. Is that 52 percent of all registered voters in California? Or is it 52 percent of the voters that voted on Prop 8? How many of the 33-34 million plus residents of California are registered voters? If one looks at the numbers only a very small percentage of all Californians voted for Prop 8.

The Prop 8 campaign was fueled by $25 million plus dollars and other resources from the Mormon Church, some of which is now being questioned over legality issues. The Roman Catholic Church also pumped unknown amounts of money and resources into the campaign. The Mormons should be especially shamed for what they have done. As members of a minority whose church teachings and values have been questions by mainstream christians to the point of persecution have used their wealth and power to persecute another minority whose nature is not based on beliefs but innate biology.
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edited on  August 5, 2010 | 10:52 AM
Thanks, Bill. It was 52 percent of voters who actually voted on the issue. Thanks for raising the question.
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August 5, 2010 | 10:49 AM
‎"As I watch Prop. 8 defenders scream about the affront to "democracy" presented by today's ruling I am reminded of the words of Frederick Douglass's response to Senator Stephen A. Douglas' defense of "democracy": "By a peculiar use of words, he confounds power with right in such a manner as to make the power to do wrong the right to do wrong. By his notion of human rights, everything depends upon the majority.'" My good and learned friend (and Frederick Douglas scholar) Nick Buccola. Three cheers, now gay men and lesbian women can just be as miserable as the rest of us!
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August 5, 2010 | 10:49 AM
Gosh if only straight people coveted marriage as much as homosexuals do. What an incredibly different country this would be. Here's to marriage and seeing your marital commitment through no matter how impossibly difficult it gets.
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August 5, 2010 | 11:51 AM
Good story, very well balanced. This latest judicial ruling on our initiative process begs the bigger story - why bother to vote on controversial issues when the court very likely will strike down the majority vote? Gay marriage has yet to pass a vote of the people in any state, being defeated 30 or so times. it's only legal in a handful of states where activist judges have deemed it so. In fact., Prop 8 was predicted to fail right before election day and its passage surprised and shocked people. We really need to re-evaluate our initiative process AND court rulings by activist judges - both conservative and liberal judges.
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August 5, 2010 | 12:10 PM
The job of a judge is to interpret law and administer justice. If voters pass a law that is unjust, as they did with Prop 8, then it is the court's job to examine the law, then judge accordingly. In my opinion the system worked brilliantly in this case. I would hope that ANY judge, whether he/she be conservative or liberal, would have stricken down Prop 8. As long as certifying marriage is the job of the STATE, then ALL human beings should be allowed to be recognized as married couples, regardless of gender. Anything less is discrimination. Period.
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August 5, 2010 | 12:36 PM
What you say Mark is how it should be, but it's not that simple. It "worked" as you say because you feel the judgement was based on Constitutional merits that suit your opinion on the subject. Judge Walker is a well-known gay man, which shouts judicial activism (Reagan appointee or not). How would you feel if a red-neck, Bible-toting Christian Federal judge had ruled the other way? I somehow don't feel you'd embrace that obvious conflict of interest and potentially-biased ruling. Activism and the appearance of activism should have no place in legal rulings - Federal and otherwise. And, our initiatives need to be scrutinized for legal muster a whole lot better.
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edited on  August 5, 2010 | 1:23 PM
Quick civics lesson. The founding fathers created three separate independent branches of government. It is called checks and balances. Judges do not only rule on laws they also rule on interpretation of the constitution and the legality of laws under the constitution. This ruling is that one group of Americans can not be singled out to be treated differently than the majority of Americans in the area of marriage. He ruled that the pro Prop 8 lawyers could not present anything other than personal and religious prejudice supported their side. One of the important functions of federal judges is to prevent the tyrany of the minority. The pro Prop 8 folks cite 52% of voters. See above on that argument. The other figure is 7 million Californians are for Prop 8. Well 34 million is commonly cited as the population of California. 7 million is 20% of Californians. So 80% of Californians are against Prop 8 or don't give a damn. Another way to look at it is 1 out of 5 Californians are against gay marriage. 4 out of 5 Californians are for gay marriage or don't care enough to vote. I could also go on about the amount of money from the Mormons etc., the scare tactics, the conservative blacks voting for Obama, etc. The bottom line in the ruling is that Prop 8 was about the tyranny of a minority of Californians unconstitutionally imposing their will on the majority of Californians.
I fully agree that we really need to re-evaluate our initiative process, but judges are usually activists only to those who disagree with them.
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August 5, 2010 | 1:53 PM
Bill, your figures are so flawed I hesitate to even respond. But here are a few key corrections:

California had a record 17.3 million eligible voters in 2008. You have to be 18 to vote in California, so not every single resident can vote.
The 2008 voter turnout in California was huge - nearly 80 percent cast ballots because of Prop. 8 and a pretty big presidential election concerning Mr. Obama.
Of those who voted for Obama, 30 percent voted "Yes" on Prop 8.
Prop 8 passed during a massive voter turnout election and despite what pollsters had predicted.
The only thing I agree with in your post is that we do need to re-evaluate our initiative process.
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August 11, 2010 | 5:50 AM
The measure should never have been brought forward -- it's unconstitutionality was known from the start, even in an 'Opinion by the AG'.

The more important point is that civil rights are not up for a vote in a constitutional democracy.

So, it doesn't matter if a BILLION people voted for it. Any measure that restricts civil benefits to an entire class of people, especially an emerging protected class, no matter how 'unpopular', is unconstitutional.

Read the opinion -- it's all there.
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August 5, 2010 | 2:44 PM
The exegesis for the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Genesis makes us nervous. Why? Because the sin committed by Adam and Steve, according to the story, was anal sex--the mystery Augustine almost solved 1600 years ago. (He thought their sin was normal penile/vaginal sex!) For more information google "WikiAnswers-What is wrong with Robert Hagedorn's Blogs"
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August 10, 2010 | 11:59 AM
"For more information" you should never cite WikiAnswers.
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