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They brought Sacramento the Citizen Hotel and its restaurant, Grange.

Now that same team is proposing an even more ambitious downtown project. Calling themselves the Sacramento Alliance Team, the partners behind the Citizen Hotel are seeking Sacramento City Council approval to redevelop the 700 and 800 blocks of K Street Mall.

Two weeks before a council vote on the matter, they held an open meeting on the plan's centerpiece: a 35,000-square-foot public market, tentatively called the California Boqueria, that would showcase the state's food and wine at the corner of Eighth and K streets.

Two of the partners, Rubicon Partners co-founder Kipp Blewett and Grange Executive Chef Michael Tuohy, encouraged about 120 people at the meeting to sign an online petition, e-mail the council and tell their friends about the project.

"What we really need is your support to move forward with this," Tuohy said at a Citizen Hotel reception featuring California wine, artisan cheeses and local produce. "It's about telling the city of Sacramento that this is very important and this is what we need and this is what you want."

Four teams — including the Sacramento Alliance Team — answered the city's request for proposals to redevelop the troubled K Street Mall blocks and submitted ideas in March. Last month, a selection committee created by the city recommended two other teams to develop those blocks. Those teams, led by developers David Taylor and Cyrus Youssefi, were also endorsed earlier this month by the Downtown Sacramento Partnership board, of which Blewett is president.

The proposal by Blewett's team was bigger and more complicated to finance, and may just need to be analyzed further, said Project Director J-E Paino of Rubicon Partners.

"We didn't present anything that we think is pie in the sky and that we can't deliver," he added.

The partners chose to anchor their proposal with a food and agricultural complex because they believe it could kick-start downtown's revitalization — bringing 1 million annual visitors to Sacramento, the largest city in the Central Valley and the center of the country's largest agricultural economy, they said.

"People come here for food and wine, as well as scenery," Tuohy said. "We have the opportunity to write our own script about what is agri-tourism, California-style."

The roughly $30 million Boqueria would include a 25,000-square-foot ground floor with a farmers' market that would tentatively operate from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. daily and open onto K Street via large, rolling doors; a wine-tasting room; an Italian coffee bar; eight food carts; exhibit space and an academic demo restaurant. A 10,000-square-foot mezzanine would include a kitchen theater, deli and more exhibit space.

The proposal was developed to meet the city's request for something "catalyic," which could entertain and bring people from the suburbs, while also turning the city's negative image as a "dusty cow town" into a positive image as the center of the farm-to-plate movement, Blewett said.

"What we came up with is the concept of healthy lifestyle ... centered around food and wine," he said.

Other partners include Pete Thompson of Rubicon, Steve Eggert and Pete Geremia of St. Anton Partners, and Dan Corfee and Craig Zarro of Preferred Capital Advisors.

The Boqueria is proposed to be built on currently vacant city-owned land and owned by a public/private cooperative. Construction would be financed by federal and state money, as well as substantial investment from California farmers and landowners, one of the wealthiest groups in the state, Paino said.

The structure could be finished by 2013. The team also proposed an office building, from 150,000 to 300,000 square feet, for agricultural-oriented tenants such as produce associations and statewide groups. The building, called the California World Food and Agriculture Center, could be built across the alley at Eighth and L streets, or be attached to the Boqueria following negotiations with the owners of two other buildings on K Street, he said.

The proposal's first phase in the 700 block calls for 213 alley-facing artist live/work units that would cost $1,000 a month for 1,200 square feet and 60,000 square feet of retail, including a brewery and blues bar. Work could begin immediately and be finished by late 2012 or early 2013. Financing would include the city's $20 million land donation and $20 million in redevelopment bond money, Paino said.

The second-phase office building would be finished a year later. A hotel has also been proposed for a third phase, but that would be put off until the economy improves, he added.

People at the meeting included foodies, farm and tourism representatives, city planners and UC Davis food science representatives.

A food and wine center collecting the best of the region and the state in one place would help California farmers, said Dan Best, who organizes most of Sacramento's farmers' markets.

"This is the center of the garden of Eden of food production," he said. "Why don't we have a center that showcases that?"

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June 28, 2010 | 11:06 PM
The author is forgetting this has to get by the city council. A council who will always chooses the most lackluster, could be built by SHRA project they can find.
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June 28, 2010 | 11:07 PM
I think this sounds really amazing, but I always defer to Bill Burg on these matters... Bill?
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edited on  June 28, 2010 | 11:46 PM
I'd say it sounds unbelievable...I certainly don't believe it.

First: With a construction cost of $1200 per square foot, how is a low-overhead use like a farmer's market going to pay the rent? If it will not, who will provide the subsidy needed to keep the place open? If the overhead gets too odious in the long run, how long before it gets replaced with something less idealistic that pays more rent?

Did they provide information about the entire project (estimated to require about $100 million in subsidy) or did they just focus on the Boqueria and the first quarter of the project--which, while it requires less subsidy than the luxury condo towers and Bob Leach style hotel on the other block, still costs considerably more than the D&S proposal for the 700 block?

If what we want is a farmer's market, why not put it in a currently vacant space? Why not put it in the Westfield mall, or the ground floor of the Renaissance Tower, or just set it up as a permanent and full-time feature of the K Street pedestrian mall? It would be inexpensive, unique, serve the same purpose, and would enliven the street a lot more than bringing back automobiles.
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June 29, 2010 | 5:55 AM
I can't imagine a lot of tourists stocking up on zucchini to take back to their hotel rooms...to do who-knows-what with. On the surface, I like the idea of employing food/wine in this type of environment on this corner of downtown, but the concept seems a bit overly "silo-ish". Burg's right: What would take it's place once it failed? A mini-Wal-Mart? I'm torn, though...I like the spirit of the idea, and that of those who came up with it. They've proven that they're dedicated to improving downtown, and I hate to shoot down an idea without knowing ALL of the facts. But, as Berg points out, the money part doesn't seem to add up. Unless those are some reallllly expensive zucchinis!
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June 29, 2010 | 7:54 AM
I am very concerned with how this plan requires destruction of our city landmarks (this plan calls for the demolition of the Montgomery Ward building, the Greyhound depot and all but the front 20 feet of the buildings on the 700 block of K, and everything but the front wall of the Kress and Bel-Vue buildings.) This means that in order to get this "Bogueria" we have to give up a significant chunk of downtown's architectural heritage. All of the other proposals were far more focused on adaptive reuse of the built environment, a more fiscally prudent and "greener" option.

This sort of "demolish everything and build something shiny and fashionable" approach has been used in downtown Sacramento for the past 50-60 years. It is the main reason why our waterfront is so vacant (we demolished most of the waterfront to make room for shiny new I-5), Capitol Mall is so quiet (we demolished a neighborhood that was on its way to becoming the west coast's answer to Bourbon Street for a shiny new Capitol Mall) and did the same thing to our Chinatown and K Street shopping district.

These projects always seem to age badly--sacrificing the classic for passing fads that end up looking worse than the things they replaced within a few years. Meanwhile, projects all over downtown and Midtown that make use of historic buildings (rehab, reuse, integration with new architecture instead of demolition) are becoming the city's centerpieces.

This sort of approach (the developer whose project wasn't chosen asking for further study) seems like a delaying tactic--the same kind that "Mo" Mohanna used back in 2005 which resulted in the last plan for the 700/800 block being scuttled. I think we have had enough study.
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June 29, 2010 | 10:27 AM
Does anybody else who respects Bill Burg's commitment to this issue want to know his choice / opinion among the (initial 4 and) now 2 projects proposed? Has Bill a best choice suggestion for us to consider?
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June 29, 2010 | 12:17 PM
Historic Montgomery Ward and Greyhound Bus Station? Kidding, right?
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 6:50 PM
Matt: I'm not kidding at all--"historic" certainly applies to this sort of building, like the Roos-Atkins building at 10th and K, a city landmark that was also a department store (like Montgomery Wards) and considerably newer than the Greyhound depot.

The Montgomery Ward is a California Register listed building constructed in 1936 in a Colonial Revival commercial style and considered a flagship of the Ward's chain at the time of construction--it was their first store with in-store air conditioning!

The Greyhound depot, another 1930s building, is one of the only examples of early Streamline Moderne in our downtown. It was identified as a "priority structure" by our original historic preservation program in the mid-1970s, although it, along with a lot of other older buildings around K Street vanished off the city's list of landmarks when the city preservation list was re-done about 10 years ago. The depot features Gladding-McBean tile (the same sort found on the Citizen Hotel) and inlay floors, and a streamlined design that was used across the country at Greyhound depots to reflect their streamlined buses. They're a rare type of building, and other cities have found good uses for them, like Washington DC--who integrated the building into a brand-new project.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/army_arch/1920154985/

MD Moore: I like the project recommended by the city of Sacramento--a combination of the D&S and David Taylor projects. It calls for new residential, office and commercial on the 800 block, including restoration of the Bel-Vue, and on the 700 block, restoration of the front 90 feet of the buildings with a residential tower (kind of like that Greyhound depot plan) behind it. I'm planning on posting a story about it in more detail, but it is based around local retailers like Old Soul, Burgers & Brew and Shady Lady, with three mid-sized music venues, late-night dessert, and retail clothing sales.

Here's an older Sacpress article about the recommended project:
http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/30570/K_Street_developers_endorsed

I'll provide more detail in a future story.
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June 29, 2010 | 8:18 AM
Well all things considered, there are plenty of projects that have moved forward in spite of financial and/or historical ramifications, and certainly some project will be moving forward in the Downtown area, and if that is the case, this project would definitely have my vote.
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June 29, 2010 | 6:24 PM
Every project has considerations like that--the problem is the extent of those issues. The financial ramifications means $100 million in city funds--not just redevelopment funds, but forgiveness of millions of dollars in Development Services fees (a department still reeling from the previous city manager's willingness to waive fees for pet projects) and, as specified below, parking bonds the city is pretty darn poorly set to provide.

The "historical ramifications" comes down to one project that wastes the historic buildings on the site and a project that makes them an integral part of the appeal and value of the site. It takes more creativity and imagination to incorporate a historic building into a new project, but the benefits to the project are obvious, as we can see by the large number of successful and vibrant preservation projects elsewhere in the central city. A historic building should be seen as a prize to a new project, not an obstacle to be brushed aside (at considerable expense, I might add.)
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 8:28 AM
If you travel, what do you remember from other cities? Do you gush about finding a WalMart downtown? Or do you spread word of mouth about sites unique to the city, for example, Pioneer Courthouse Square in Portland, the Embarcadero in SF, Pike Place Market in Seattle (http://www.pikeplacemarket.org/explore_the_market/market_map), to name a few?

Tourists (and residents) need something to do when downtown, and shopping in chain stores gets old quickly. Tourists and local employees alike would embrace a Boqueria--a place to buy local food, eat in local restaurants or just enjoy people-watching. To keep our downtown lively and safe, we need people there after 4 pm (that is when many downtown businesses close because the state workers go home). We need buzz about downtown!

Midtown attracts visitors from the suburbs and downtown could do the same. In addition, downtown has convenient parking garages (which midtown is lacking) to accomodate suburban folks who are accustomed to plentiful parking.

As for the architectural heritage, we should keep what we can keep, but remember that crumbling buiildings and fenced-off lots (the current status), are not a heritage to be proud of.
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 6:13 PM
Well said Buddha for the most part. Poorly maintained buildings are not the buildings fault - it is widely known as Demolition by Neglect and many a speculator is guilty of it including the most recent owners on these blocks. The farmers market could easily be housed in an existing beautifully restored structure - like the success at the Citizen Hotel or Cosmo in the old Woolworths building. But the market/ ag center is only one aspect on the plan - the fun part, not the ugly details of financing and destruction of the very thing that sets us apart from our suburban neighbors - our historic urban core. Saving the facade is not preservation is it fake historicism and facadism - like disneyland - not exactly a place you want to stay for longer than a day or two. Whereas Midtown has mostly authentic historic buildings and unique destination retail and stuff to do after 5.
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June 29, 2010 | 6:28 PM
Which is why we should keep what we can keep, not sacrifice them. Nobody is talking about putting a Walmart downtown--the selected project is based on local businesses and a strong residential component, with public art that complements the aesthetic and cultural value of the historic buildings, and elements intended to create a memorable, walkable streetscape.

Pike Place is a good example of how historic preservation adds to the appeal of a space--instead of bulldozing Pike Place, they preserved it. Although the dirty little secret of Pike Place is that, because agriculture in northern Washington isn't nearly what it is in California, their public market is a subsidized amenity. We have closer access to agricultural resources--if we were to make use of an existing building or other space for a public market instead of a new building, a public market could break even or even be profitable.
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June 29, 2010 | 8:48 AM
Hey! They could just move the Farmer's Market stalls in Old Sacramento that open with large, rolling doors...
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June 29, 2010 | 6:38 PM
Yes indeed--there are plenty of places where we could have a full-time farmer's market that don't require a $100 million subsidy.
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 1:03 PM
We seem to always want an alluring downtown. A place where tourists and suburbanites come to play.

What about building a downtown that functions for people who live and work downtown?

One reason for Midtown's success is that made up of a patchwork of thriving residential neighborhoods. The people who live and work there care for the place.

This project has potential in that it could add vital services and a place to buy food for those who choose to live downtown. But I do fear that the language used to promote the project is all about drive in and drive out. It is that mentality and that built the Westfield shopping center, America Live!, and has stalled several developments over the years.
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June 29, 2010 | 10:19 AM
copy editor sleeping, Ben? Nice reminder re America Live! though...
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June 29, 2010 | 1:02 PM
I was on a mobile device - just had to chime in. I don't have copy editors look after my comments.
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 6:39 PM
Indeed--the Bogueria seems like a project intended for tourists and visitors, not residents. Now, any project will have to draw people from outside the immediate neighborhood, but the city recommended plan includes hundreds of residential units and a mix of local businesses, daytime and late-night uses.
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June 29, 2010 | 10:42 AM
I like the spirit of this project as well, though Burg's concerns seem legit. At any rate, it's a thought in the right direction & it seems that at least some of the developers involved have an actual stake in Sacramento. If done right - like the Pike Market - a place like this can appeal to vistors & residents alike.
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June 29, 2010 | 12:21 PM
If you want to make downtown a thriving urban community, it needs to have civic ammenities that will draw people to it 7 days a week, 18 hours a day. A place people will want to live, work, visit - and spend money. And when people spend money, it creates jobs and taxes for all the other things we want. I commend Blewett and Rubicon for thinking big. Have you ever seen Pike's in Seattle or Granville Island in Vancouver - locals and tourists alike...making it a wonderful place for everyone.
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June 29, 2010 | 1:18 PM
Having been to both - and planning to get married at The Ferry Building in SF - I love projects that unite food and local culture.

I will point out that these examples are all very different in terms of their histories, how they function today, and their usefulness to local residents.

I think some scrutiny of each project is in order. What makes them successful? Who are their primary customers and what is it about the location or the tourism market in that city that makes it work?

Vancouver, Seattle and San Francisco have large tourism industries. That is one thing they all share in common. Each city also has large numbers of urban residents who lived there prior to the construction of "the draw." And each project is more unique than it is a reference to the other.

Sacramento does deserve a project that shows off our food and local culture and I hope we build one that thrives. I think we need to figure out how something like this works and why it works in that location and in our city. Personally, I hope a lot of thought is given to the surrounding neighborhood. I hope we support it and surround it with the infrastructure and the residents it takes to make it a success. And I hope we make sure financing is assured.
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 6:23 PM
Yes Matt - many of us have traveled extensively here at home and abroad. Thinking big is not the issue, thinking about what works for our city is what we're talking about here. I am surprised you appear willing to sacrifice other high-risk developments (Railyards, Docks, Township 9, et. al.) for this one. You are well aware of our collective recent experience that shows us that the last time we spread the risk among several high risk projects too thin at once we got several holes in the ground of which a few are still there - 3rd & Capitol comes to mind. I am sure I am not the only one who is unwilling to see two blocks destroyed - or worse a parking garage - on the chance that maybe one the four phases of the Rubicon proposal might get built someday.
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June 29, 2010 | 6:32 PM
Pike Place and the Ferry Building are both excellent example of historic preservation--not "facadomies" or teardowns. They both take advantage of the built environment and the heritage of their cities as special places in their own right. Sacramento has its own heritage and is its own special place--this sales pitch seems based on the idea that nothing in Sacramento actually passes muster, or is worth seeing on its own, and no building that is already here is worth saving, rehabilitating or celebrating.

What do the developers of the Railyards, who also plan a public market in their project, think about this project? Are they worried it will draw off energy, interest and public funds from their project, already several years in the making, for a project that is just barely on the drawing board?
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 12:26 PM
Those drawings are hideous. Not a good sales tool.
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June 29, 2010 | 4:59 PM
The Rubicon proposal's phase one that is "ready to go" involves a $14.5 million city endorsed parking bond. The City does not have the capacity to endorse this bond anytime soon! Besides the impossible bond, the requested overall subsidy is a higher dollar amount per unit when looked at closely. The proposal includes surrounding properties not under City control or Rubicon's control. These properties instead are owned by Mo Mohanna and Bevenuti among others. The Rubicon proposal does not preserve all the existing historic buildings. The Selection Committee and DSP made the right decision. Taylor for 800 with over $20 million solely at their disposal. And D&S for the 700 given their proposal's boldness yet also doability.
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June 29, 2010 | 6:41 PM
Indeed--nor are they likely to be very fond of the idea of waiving a couple million dollars' worth of development fees. Development Services' willingness to waive fees is a major reason why they are currently under audit--and probably has a lot to do with the career changes of our former City Manager and former head of Development Services.
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 8:41 PM
Raises an interesting question: When does a building become "historic"? And don't all man-made objects have their finite life-spans? How well were some of these buildings constructed way-back-when, and from a structural stand point, are they worth preserving? Living in Natomas, aka: Stuccoville, I highly doubt that a tourist bus will be cruising slowly down East Commerce one day 100-years hence pointing out the architectural genius of KB Homes. But...there are some VERY good ideas floating around out there, that if brought to realization, will be tomorrow's "historic landmarks". As for some of the older, and disintegrating structures downtown that are going to go away eventually, well, that's why they invented cameras.
The Crocker's new addition, in my opinion, is a shining (literally!) example of how the new can compliment the old.
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edited on  June 29, 2010 | 9:35 PM
It isn't so much about "when" as "why"--there are several criteria under which a building can be significant (including association with events, people, architecture or archaeology.) Generally a building must be at least 50 years old before it can be considered a historic building, but that's more of a guideline--just being 50 years old doesn't automatically make a building historic. However, city and state rules (especially involving public funds) require that demolition of older buildings requires that the city look closely at older structures to see if they are potentially locallandmark buildings or even eligible for the National Register. Normally this review is pretty cursory (such as demolition of someone's old garage) but in the case of the 700-800 block, many of the buildings involved are already city landmarks.

As to a building's condition, many of the buildings under consideration were still occupied until vacated by SHRA, and some are still in use, so we're not talking about long-abandoned buildings or burnt-out hulks. Buildings "way back when" are often better constructed than modern construction--they were built of brick, old-growth timber, stone, steel, and other materials meant to last, with craftsmanship that is nearly impossible to replicate today without great expense. Rehabbing an old building isn't necessarily cheap--but it is almost invariably cheaper than new construction of comparable quality. Building cheap stucco garbage is less expensive, but I assume that's not the sort of thing we want to see in the heart of downtown.

Considering that last weekend, 1500 people paid $20-25 to tour Land Park's "Mid-Century Modern" homes (more would have gone but the event sold out!), built between about 1950 and the mid-1960s, there is definitely interest in historic architecture of the early and middle 20th century.
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June 30, 2010 | 5:54 AM
I'm glad we have folks like you, William, who are passionate about this! I enjoy older architecture, too, but don't possess the learned appreciation as someone of your ilk! I appreciate your knowledge and your ability to share it in this forum! It's nice to begin the day with a new perspective!
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June 29, 2010 | 10:39 PM
Great comments and discussion.
It's interesting how the Boqueria and AuthentiCity plan is getting shot at for being Bold and Too Expensive.
A few questions to consider:

•The teams bringing the Boqueria and AuthentiCity forward, what is their track record? Are these projects and their size/scope a reach for this team?
Rubicon-$400M + 5M SF Developed
St Anton-5,000 apartments units Owned & Managed
Preferred Capital-$4.5B (yes Billion) of Equity & Debt Sourced

•If Bold is expensive and requires an acheivable, yet complicated financial plan, is it not worth considering?

•If a "parking bond" has been used successfully in Rockville MD, San Diego, Old Pasadena, and is being considered in other parts of Sacramento, is it an option we should diregard?

•Out of curiosity can anyone describe how a "parking bond" works?
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June 29, 2010 | 11:51 PM
I absolutely think bold and expensive but achievable is worth discussing and I'm glad we all are.

We should also not disregard a parking bond - although we should be careful how we spend money that is not in hand (and money that is).

I have no clue how the bond works and share your interest!

Now for more opinion: One of the big problems with these kinds of discussions is that we are trying to fill a hole. Does Sacramento deserve more unique venues like this concept? Yes! But for a moment separate the concept from the location. Might there be a better location? Might the concept look different without tons of public financing? Years after the developer has left will the project sill be sustainable?

There are plans to build something similar in the now bankrupt Railyards. How does one affect the other? Which is more likely to succeed?

These are the tough questions I think we all grapple with. That does not mean that I am for or against a project like this, but I like to be skeptical and open a wider discussion.

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June 30, 2010 | 7:51 AM
I suppose "bold" is one way to put it--a project that asks for more than the city can deliver, and money the city doesn't have, with a proposal that violates the terms of the original Request for Qualifications. Bold also means risky--will this project's demand for $100 million put other projects in the central city, like the Railyards, Township 9, the Docks, Crystal Ice, etcetera--at risk, due to their diversion of funds and city staff time (uncompensated, thanks to the demand for waiver of planning fees) that this 5-acre project would require?

I suppose more people might be comfortable with bold if so many of this town's other "bold" projects weren't in bankruptcy court right now, or on hold due to the national crisis chilling the housing and money markets. Pouring effort into this project is likely to kill off others while still being risky on its own--which means even more unfilled holes in the ground, plus the new ones caused by demolition of our landmarks.
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June 30, 2010 | 6:32 PM
JE Paino: "•Out of curiosity can anyone describe how a "parking bond" works?"

Near as I can tell, it works like this: The city underwrites a bond, and gives the money to the developer now. The bond, plus interest, is repaid via parking revenues that would have otherwise gone to the city. Essentially, the city borrows from its own future income (plus interest) to give to a developer.

So it's a bit like someone asking you to give them money, but you don't have the money so you cash-advance your credit card. Then, you pay off the card and interest over time, and end up paying more than if you had the money to give them in the first place.

Does that sound about right to you?
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June 30, 2010 | 8:04 PM
On some of Ben's thoughts on the location of the Boqueria. i believe they said on Monday night that the State Ag industry is behind the project because of the proximity to the capital. Children would visit it in conjunction with visits to the capital. Proximity to the convention center and to the 'heart' of Sacramento were other reasons.

and Mr Burg - i believe the City requested that Rubicon come up with a proposal that is on Agency only land. So when I say Bold i don't only mean the size but the ideas - bringing people downtown without cannibalizing midtown and east sac dining and entertainment options. Bold as in creating more jobs, a bigger sales and real estate tax base. Bold as in bringing civic amenities- Boqueria, Hall of Fame, Center for Sacramento History to K Street. Bold in thinking. No Dangerous, just Courageous.
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June 30, 2010 | 9:54 PM
The city asked for a proposal that is on agency-only land, and you delivered one that requires nearly a city block that isn't on agency-only land. The city asked that the Bel-Vue and the landmark buildings on the 700 block be preserved, and you provide a plan that demolishes most of those buildings, in addition to city landmarks outside the city project boundary. I'll admit, that's bold. Bold as in cannibalizing other, larger projects in the development pipeline, like the Railyards and the Docks? Bold as in asking the city for $100 million during a period of enormous deficits? Bold as in stealing ideas from other development projects? Bold as in claiming that retaining one wall of a building counts as "historic preservation"?

Bold as a bank robbery.
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June 30, 2010 | 11:21 PM
To make a project work downtown you need more residential and you need amenities that focus on bringing people in for entertainment and shopping. We need to get more people living downtown, working downtown, and shopping downtown. Besides being financially unrealistic, this proposal isolates itself from the surrounding midtown/downtown atmosphere.

The concept of this Boqueria may sound appealing on paper, but where do we see a farmers market of that size open for seven days a week for extended hours? This plan calls for a main attraction of the site to lay empty and dark at night. We need more eyes on K street in the evening hours, not just for a couple hours post work.

And to demolish a large portion of these historically valued buildings is so upsetting. We need to empower downtown Sacramento through these buildings with such rich history. What's made San Diego, Portland and other cities so successful in its revitalization is preserving their historical buildings!

I believe that D&S Development has the best proposal of the 4. They have a plan that flows together the best concepts to make a thriving downtown node all of Sacramento can benefit from. With mixed use and a good balance of residential and commercial, they plan to preserve the buildings in most of their entirety, unlike this proposal. I hope to see the City approve D&S Development's project.
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July 1, 2010 | 8:05 AM
"Bold as in asking the city for $100 million during a period of enormous deficits?"... yes, but someone is going to get this money right? ... and if that is the case I do like SOME/MOST of the things that Boqueria is promising.

Just wondering, does the City Council, just approve these proposals, or can they tell someone who is submitting a proposal to make some changes... Does the City Council have some kind of developer liaison that could help make recommendations to the projects?

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edited on  July 1, 2010 | 6:56 PM
This is one of four plans submitted to the city. A team assembled by the city is recommending a mixture of two of the four plans, neither of which includes the Rubicon plan, but the City Council's vote is the final say. More on that shortly.

And yes, someone gets the money...the question is, who gets it, and how much--and who pays for it?
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July 1, 2010 | 8:08 AM
Speaking of successful, walkable/destination concepts. Sure the Ferry Bldg. and Pikes Place are great, but those cities have a greater City population than Sacramento... Recently, I was in Fort Collins, CO and they had an amazing walkable district... Fort Collins is much smaller than Sacramento... I began to wonder how a smaller city was able to have such a lively district and it turns out that Fort Collins has a college nearby and Downtown does not... I wonder if there is a connection... students would certainly liven up a dead zone... hmmm....

Has anyone ever brought that up? Bringing a UC to Downtown. I went to college in Worcester, MA and there were at least 6 colleges and universities within a few sq. miles... just a thought...
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edited on  July 1, 2010 | 6:27 PM
It's not about total population, it's about density, and density is driven by the transportation system. College towns tend to have walkable places because college students often don't have cars (more need for cars, bikes and public transit) and live in relatively high density (apartments, dorms, shared housing) instead of spread-out single-family housing. The enormous amount of space needed by cars (a parking space for each car at home, work, school, church, the park, the mall, the supermarket, etcetera) is the biggest enemy of walkability. Colleges aren't essential for walkability, but they are a factor. Part of why Midtown works they way it does is because there are lots of college students--dense living, bike riding, transit taking, etcetera.

Personally, I'd love to see a UC in downtown Sacramento, or a consolidated campus for all the various small scattered campuses and satellite campuses, or relocate Academy of Art College from Natomas to downtown. There are many things to consider. But that's a more complex issue, and would probably require more space than this little 2.5 acre space.
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edited on  July 6, 2010 | 9:47 AM
This whole dog and pony show is a farce, David Taylor will be handed the project. - There is no real competition; the City just needs to act like they are going through a public process.

The monkeys in City hall should not approve ANY K Street plan that uses public money. Taxpayers have already been forced AT GUNPOINT to spend HUNDREDS of MILLIONS on that rat hole - only to see complete failure...the dark gray dungeon called Westfield Mall is a disaster - all of the empty lots and boarded up buildings are a direct result of government intervention.

In this case, the government will steal our money and GIVE it to campaign contributors/cronies who control our corrupt city council.

David Taylor and the Greek Developer Mob have gotten very very wealthy of the backs of tax payers - these subsidies need to stop.

This how this Sacramento works: The Democrats control the City Council and County Board of Supervisors - and SHRA - They use SHRA as a giant ATM to give the Greek Developer Mob and David Taylor et. al., hundreds of millions in public money - In return these Insider corporate welfare types give tens of millions to the Democratic Party - This is called campaign finance money laundering - The taxpayers are being forced at gunpoint to support the Democratic Party.

It's quite a scam they have going on here in River City.


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edited on  July 9, 2010 | 10:08 AM
Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere here, but was the nice, big existing void where the Saca Towers project was going to go considered for the Boqueria? I do not wish to see iconic buildings destroyed when a gaping hole already exists elsewhere.
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