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by Colleen Belcher, published on June 4, 2010 at 4:17 PM

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It was brought to our attention that mailers were sent out by the Sacramento Building Trades Political Action Committee with our name and logo.

The Sacramento Press had no part in it. We did not print the mailers. We did not write those words. The quote " We're being hoodwinked, bamboozeled, led astray, run amok as it appears District One candidate, Angelique Ashby, goes with the Hustle and Flow of dirty politics," came from an opinion piece, written by a community contributor on our site. We did not write or solicit the article.

Our site is a mixture of professional and community reporting. We have a small staff of paid reporters, but the majority of our content comes from the community without any censoring.

We want to make it very clear that we have NO part in this flier.

If you receive these fliers in the mail, they did NOT come from The Sacramento Press.

Thank you to those who called and came to our office to bring this to our attention.

 

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I'm all for "negative" advertising...it has it's place in politics and other advertising - but THIS is blatant, cheap, high-schoolish, ambush (aka "swiftboat") amateur dirt (trying to be sensitive to the other readers).
I think that that Mr. Tretheway could show a lot of class by publicly admonishing those responsible for this insult to our collective intelligence and sensibilities...and hope that supporters of Ashby don't lower themselves to react in-kind.
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It might not be Tretheway's folks doing this - I'm not defending this action or Tretheway at all, it's pretty shameful to use SacPress in this fashion. The Mayor has angered plenty of people which might make tracking this down not as easy as it might look on the surface.
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June 4, 2010 | 8:12 PM
Ah! Good point...appearances can be deceiving! Especially in politics. I'll amend my suggestion: I think that ALL of those who may be finding support from those who excreted this garbage strongly come out against it. Sacramento is too good for this kind of thing. Come Wednesday, we're all going to have to live with our collective decisions and make the most of it!
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Nothing quite as potent as fighting a 'swiftboater' with 'swiftboating' tactics.... or a campaign influenced by Steve Maviglio with Steve Maviglio tactics....

I LOVE THESE THINGYS!!!

Local politics hasn't been this entertaining since all those Pete Wilson depictions as a sad Mickey Mouse were plastered on every flat surface in Midtown.... almost as fun as a night out at the Bolt...

BRAVO!!!!
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I must admit, bbbbmer, I am looking rather forward to checking my mailbox today!
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June 4, 2010 | 4:57 PM
Just to play Devil's Advocate, would it be OK for a flier to quote a Marcos Breton column and then attribute it to the Sacramento Bee?

If a flier quoted a community contributor's news piece, would Sacramento Press still say "We did not write those words"?

I'm not saying I agree with the fliers. Just thinking out loud.
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June 4, 2010 | 5:02 PM
The flier didn't put a name under the quote. It just says Sacramento Press. Marcos Breton is solicited and paid for his column, the editorial department assigns him a weekly column and he sends it in. We did not assign this story, nor did we solicit it.
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June 4, 2010 | 5:30 PM
I think there is a good debate to be had. The issue for us is that people are calling in mad thinking we produced these fliers.
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You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT that while these words were not technically written by the SP, they did APPEAR in the SP's community content, and are LEGITIMATE as such...

And the ads' sentiments are TRUE -- KJ has behaved in the manner depicted in these ads, AND his support for the snarls and snorts of right wing teabagger darling (I'd use the term 'pig', but the SP seems to equate or conflate that image with pornography) Ashby is just part of his strategy to move the SMI forward...

Though I don't think it's going to work, frankly, for the votes just aren't there either now or after the election...

And if these silly ads help to stop a suckup like Ashby from incumbency, ALL THE BETTER!!!!

Hell, given the depictions, one might think Ashby would be FLATTERED for they show her much thinner than she really is.....

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June 6, 2010 | 2:33 AM
Ben runs a slimy operation where anonymous posters are encouraged to run amok. What has transpired in District 1 is a logical conclusion for the way he has allowed Sac Press to operate. I'm sure he's delighted that his enterprise has been drawn into this controversy. Page views are more important than having a operation with any sense on integrity.
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June 6, 2010 | 10:17 AM
That is not true. I would be happy to discuss the issue in person, by email or over the phone.

I have never ever prioritized page views by sacrificing integrity. If there is anyone in this organization who lacks integrity feel free to contact me.

I agree that comments have been devolving and we are ill equipped to handle the situation, but we are working on solutions.

Finally, I am not delighted in the least. Please email me at support@sacramentopress.com and I will address any and all concerns.
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June 7, 2010 | 6:53 AM
I absolutely do NOT find the SP to be a 'slimy operation' IN THE SLIGHTEST, this, despite constant excising of my own brand of hyperbole facing that of 'the other side'....

I believe, despite past skirmishes, that the SP is a unique form of community expression, and I would bet it's going to be around for a long long time, and I thank GOD for that...

I learn more here about the community than any other media outlet, save the SNR.

The Bee is a moribund press arm with vested corporate interests, partners, and other relationships, and their news reporting and ed board are far too cozy with those they should be scrutinizing...

This little media experiment that is the SP is at least lively, terribly entertaining (at times, in a masochistic sort of way), and I think it's fabulous that thems' that make this little thingy possible have dedicated time and effort and cash in doing so, and I think, despite my own pissiness at some of the excisions made of some of the more peppery of my own little blurbs, they deserve a flood of community applause...
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June 4, 2010 | 5:09 PM
LoL funny since everyone knows that the developers own Tretheway lock stock and barrel

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June 4, 2010 | 5:22 PM
Colleen:
I agree that the fliers should have listed the author or somehow made clear it was an opinion column, but I think Sacramento Press has some kind of association with every story on its website, no matter who wrote it. I think the basic principles of Sacramento Press call for contributors' stories to be treated equally with those written by staffers.

Again, just thinking out loud . . .
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June 4, 2010 | 5:37 PM
Sounds nice, but this use makes it seem like this was an editorial or perhaps reporting. It was neither.

This kind of misleading tactic could be used for anyone who supports anything to simply write an opinion piece on the site and then produce a flier that implies we stand behind words we never wrote or solicited.

I know the graphic design of the site makes it look like a newspaper - and that is the easiest way to describe us, but we are new media and we act as a service provider when we allow community contribution through self publishing tools.
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June 4, 2010 | 8:06 PM
Ben -- it's the name more than anything else that suggests this site is a part of the Press ...
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June 5, 2010 | 12:46 AM
I agree - you have a site that is set up to look somewhat like a newspaper, with sections that look like newspaper sections, and a name that sounds like you're part of the newspaper/print media industry. Whether any of us like it or not, the flyer quotes an article that appeared in the Sacramento Press in a manner that is common when quoting news media: Quotes tend to attribute material to "The New York Times" or "ABC News" and only to the author or host if that person has even more brand equity than the media outlet itself.

This may be the first time this has happened but it won't be the last and the solution needs to come from the Sacramento Press as the way the material was used was not inherently inappropriate. You might need some kind of header that appears in all articles that states whether the content is generated by staff or not. But I think it's unreasonable, or at least unrealistic, to expect others to determine which content is which if it's not immediately clear on the site.
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June 4, 2010 | 7:12 PM
Well, you could consider the positive side:
Someone thinks you have a reputation worth stealing. Many publications are still not considered worthy
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June 4, 2010 | 7:42 PM
I'm glad that Sac Press wasn't involved.
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June 4, 2010 | 8:21 PM
I had no idea something I wrote which was not a news story went out on a flier.... Sacramento Press did not solicit an article from me, did not ask for it heck they never even suggested they agreed with what I wrote. So to put their name on it was wrong, it was trickery and I disagree with it.

Now, lots of folks have something to say about the fliers that went out. But I'm curoius when a community member writes a blog everyday for over 3 weeks , does a count down making up stories, situations, circumstances of Tretheway WHY aren't people complaining? Why the double standard? What's the difference of sending out these type of literature in the mail or posting/ sending it out on the internet. Heck, the Tretheway stories written daily are fiction, imaginary... At least the fliers regarding Ashby has some truth to it.

Again, I don't agree with the fliers but I do see lots of double standards. No one has asked Ashby to apologize for the daily countdown stories making Tretheway appear ignorant (to say the least) It's sad how some only feel wounded if their choice for a candidate is wounded. Well, that's my 2 cents.; I had nothing to do with the fliers and Sac Press had nothing to do with me writing those words in a story .
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June 5, 2010 | 1:27 AM
When I wrote I don't agree with the fliers I mean I don't agree with it appearing as though it was the opinion of SacPress. However, I do agree with the material written on the fliers.
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June 4, 2010 | 8:58 PM
I wish I'd have thought of it!!! LOVE IT!!!
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June 4, 2010 | 9:40 PM
I thought this was funny.... Ray & Angelique are alwayz goin at it... SACRAMENTO NEEDS SOMETHING NEW IN CITY COUNCIL... LIKE SOME ONE WHO FIGHTS FOR CHANGE LIKE A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST... NOT ONE WHO SAYS THEY ARE, BUT RECOGNIZED... AND IT WOULDN'T HURT TO PUT A LATINO IN THERE... HAVENT HAD ONE IN 10 YRS...
YOU KNOW, EFREN GUTTIERREZ HAS BEEN CONSISTENT FOR 30 YRS AS THAT... HMMM HE'S RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL DIST 1... WWW.EFRENGCITYCOUNCIL.ORG
I'VE WORKED WITH HIM FOR 5 YEARS - ALWAYZ STANDS UP FOR THE LESS PRIVILEGED, MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. KNOWS WHAT IT IS TO FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE AND HAS NO SPECIAL INTERESTS ONLY THE PEOPLE'S NEEDS. REAL TALK.
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I agree with your sentiments, but is your caps key locked???
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I dont trust Real Estate agents, ever - they are snakes who will sell out the community in a heartbeat.
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June 5, 2010 | 5:37 PM
Dont know her, dont care, she is not running for office.
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June 4, 2010 | 10:19 PM
It is too bad that these guys have used Sac Press, as I think they are doing a great job and provide an alternative to the major newspaper. But, what they are doing with humor has a lot of truth in it & the message is right on target.

The fact is that KJ is endorsing certain folks that he feels will vote his way. Furthermore,it illustrates the power hunger by this mayor and points out the true motive of his supporters - the developers.
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June 4, 2010 | 10:34 PM
Rhonda, I assume you are referring to the "conversations" on my site. Not sure why Ashby would apologize for them (?). That would be like Tretheway apologizing for the article in which you submitted Ashby is getting hustled by Johnson (?). Like you, I don't have any affiliation with a political candidate or political cause. I too am just a citizen with an opinion on the internet.

As you wouldn't expect Tretheway to apologize for your hyperbolic portrayal of Ashby as someone deserving of Malcolm X's famous words [".. hoodwinked, bamboozeled, led astray, run amok], I wouldn't expect Ashby to apologize for my hyperbolic portrayal of Tretheway as one the three stooges. The most either of us is guilty of is flamboyance, and I don't think we owe anyone apologies--nor does the Sac Press for that matter, in my opinion.

And in keeping with that spirit, I would like to add: If in the course of my silly Tretheway conversations I have portrayed Mr, Tretheway (whose district I lived in for nine years) as anything less than unqualified, overrated, outdated, and painfully out of touch, I submit my sincerest apologies. :)

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edited on  June 5, 2010 | 12:34 AM
Mark, I never said Ashby should apologize for what you wrote. Yes, just like with Tretheway; it would show class if she had. (or if he does) It was mentioned in the first post by P.W. that Tretheway should apologize for the fliers. I'm saying if it's good for the goose it's good for the gander. If Ray should apologize for something he had no part in then Ashby should apologize for something she had no part in. You have a right to write what you did and the folks who sent out the flyers has a right to send them out. I wondered what’s the difference mailing the material or posting it on the internet.

I have said she should apologize for the actions of her endorsers….

I agree, neither of us owes anyone an apology. I also don't think SacPress owes an apology. But they should and did set the record straight. It is what it is—misleading and they had a right to correct it.

There’s no need for your sincere apologies since you portrayed him as unqualified…. You're entitled to your opinion and can portray him as you like.
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What I can say about Tretheway he’s not a liar, (as some of Ashby's supporters attempted to make him out to be) He wasn’t falsely labeled a liar until this campaign with Ashby. Tretheway wasn't willing to stay in office by any means necessary- hook or crook—He turned down support because he wouldn’t support the SMI just to get in office. (support offered to him by those who apparently didn't initially offer Ashby support until Tretheway declined the unethical behavior). Tretheway is not a manipulator.....He’s not a wolf in sheep’s clothing....

Heck; with Tretheway the good outweighs the bad. If I had to choose the lesser of two evils it sure as heck wouldn’t be Ashby. If I portrayed Ashby as anything less than a potential puppet for Johnson; turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the deceitful games of her endorsers before getting in office (scared what she’d do once in office to repay her debts)…. I won’t submit an insincere apology. I called it like I see it.
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June 5, 2010 | 7:14 AM
This reminds me of the old "Telephone" game! Just to be clear: I didn't call for Mr. Tretheway to "apologize" for anything...but rather to "admonish those responsible" for the flyer. There is a difference.
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June 4, 2010 | 11:08 PM
Content and editorial issues aside, it's kind of interesting that someone thought Sacramento Press an important enough source to quote something on the site, even if it was an article by a community contributor rather than paid staff.
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June 4, 2010 | 11:51 PM
Like the Jefferson's, SP is 'movin' on up'....

Of course, the Jefferson's were eventually cancelled. And Weezie died...
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June 5, 2010 | 12:33 PM
Everything ends, tear.
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June 5, 2010 | 2:04 PM
I just wanted to get that weezie thing in -- i thought she was a great lady... plus it made a great punchline...
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June 4, 2010 | 11:44 PM
Rather than the information age, we are living in the age of noise. Sacramento Press needs better journalistic practices so that the source of stories is clear. In this new cyber age, it's too easy to take the road of least resistance and just copy or reprint stories without regard to source or facts. It is up to the new cyber journalist to check facts, re-write the story based on those facts and move on.

The main issue is to take a look at the race and really check facts. Is Ashby really a lawyer? Was she the force that actually got the funds for the library and firehouse? Is she using the mayor's political machine to bolster her campaign? It is the journalist that checks these facts and reports on them. The public doesn't need the opinions of media, but the reporting of facts so that we all can make informed decisions. What I see is speculation, innuendo and short cuts. We need journalism.

I enjoy Sacramento Press, but encourage you to seek the facts and not piggyback off of the spin of others. You've got a great chance at making journalism valuable again. Don't miss that chance.
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June 5, 2010 | 12:37 PM
Agreed. We will be working on improvements both technical and in our process to enhance our journalism.

We got into the business to do something radically open and different - but also better. We have improved significantly and we have a long way to go. In fact, I t think you ever "get there."
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June 4, 2010 | 11:57 PM
One other point about facts and the Natomas council seat. In all your focus on the mailers and trying explain things, you failed to report about the release from Matsui's office noting that she was able to get congress to approve the preferred flood insurance rates for our region, thereby saving us each about 400 to 1000 dollars a year. That important decision was made with Tretheway working directly with Matsui to get this done. If you look at the decisions on levee maintenance and the varied groups working together, you will have to give Tretheway major credit for looking out for Natomas pocket books. Remember the journalism.
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June 5, 2010 | 1:03 AM
I really like your comment.

It's sad that Tretheway is given so little credit when the man worked from his heart.... It's sad that some in efforts to make Ashby look good they do it by makiing Tretheway look bad, ignoring or dismissing any good he's done. That’s not right. Heck even Ashby during a campaign debate continuously took shots at Tretheway in what appears to be an attempt to make herself look good by making him look bad. I’d love to see campaigns where candidates just focused on their strengths and what they can do and leave all the messy -- I’m –scared-I might-loose-time-for dirty games out of it.

“But Ashby continued to take shots at Tretheway when responding to nearly every question.” http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/26434/A_Divided_Natomas
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June 5, 2010 | 2:04 AM
Rhonda, I wasn't apologizing for how I have portrayed him. I was actually standing behind the way I have portrayed him. I was kidding around saying in other words "If I have NOT portrayed him as out of touch, outdated, etc then I apologize because I sure tried me best to." :)

So you think it would show class if Ashby apologized for my Tretheway Conversation articles? Then I assume in the spirit of consistency you also believe it would show class for Ray to apologize for your "hustle and flow" piece on Ashby, right? If that is indeed your position, I respectfully disagree because I do not think public officials should have to apologize for remarks made by private citizens. Free speech. Free country. Thank God.

Conversely, if you think it would be respectful for Ashby to apologize for my stuff, but not for Ray to apologize for yours, I wonder why the inconsistency? After all you've satirized Ashby as a street urchin getting hustled by a seedy character. That's just as metaphorical as what I'm doing, isn't it? Only difference is that your article is explicit (i.e. it states Ashby is deceiving people); whereas as mine are implicit. But we're both clearly taking sides and clearly painting our subjects as either deceptive (in your case), or out of touch with reality (in my case).

Addressing a few of your other points:

"Tretheway ... turned down support because he wouldn’t support the SMI just to get in office."

Is that a KNOWN FACT? Has this been proven, or is this an allegation made by Tretheway that you believe to be true, simply on the grounds that it SOUNDS like something Kevin Johnson would do? I ask because I was not aware this had been proven

"Tretheway is not a manipulator.....He’s not a wolf in sheep’s clothing...."

I don't think he's a manipulative at all. I've always maintained Ray seems like a decent guy to me. I think the city has outgrown him, but that's another discussion.

" If I portrayed Ashby as anything less than a potential puppet for Johnson; turning a blind eye and deaf ear to the deceitful games of her endorsers before getting in office"

You said it --- a "POTENTIAL" puppet. POTENTIAL is the key word here. No one knows for sure if she actually WILL be a puppet for Johnson except Angelique. It's all speculative at this point. In fact it wasn't even a question until she got Johnson's endorsement. Then all of a sudden the conspiracy theories started, now the propaganda. BUT DON'T GET ME WRONG: I understand WHY people got heated. Because whatever Kevin Johnson touches becomes a hotbed of controversy--including Angelique Ashby.

Personally, I am not happy he endorsed her... or anyone for that matter. I personally think he brought her a whole mountain of drama she didn't need or want. I also think his endorsement of her was disrespectful towards the incumbent. He recklessly tossed Tretheway under the boss like roadkill and left him scrambling to defend himself. Another extremely ill advised move by Johnson.

I digress. The point here is that no one knows for sure if Ashby is going to be his puppet. The big conspiracy theory is just that.. a theory. Personally I think it's far fetched. Ashby succumbing to Johnson's puppet strings doesn't sound any more plausible to me than you succumbing to his puppet strings. Both you and Angelique actually have more in common than not. You both love your communities dearly and are willing to fight for them come hell or high water. I have nothing but respect for both of you.

" I won’t submit an insincere apology. I called it like I see it. "

Well yes and that is your greatest quality I have observed so far. :)
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June 5, 2010 | 5:36 AM
You're entire comment could have been summarized by one phrase in the last full paragraph....
"I digress. ".....
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June 5, 2010 | 5:44 AM
1) I know you weren't apologizing and you were standing by what you write, as you should, so do I. I know you "kiddin around" so was I
2) Someone else mentioned it would show class. I merely agreed with their reasons and in the spirit of consistency is why I wrote what I wrote-- What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Mark, of course if I felt it was good for Ashby to comment then it would be good for Tretheway. I didn't say they should apologize or even comment for that matter. I agreed with someone else regarding it showing class. Why didn't you comment to him since the class comment was his? Was it because he may supports Ashby?
3) I believe in free speech. I previously wrote they (both Ashby and Tretheway) should comment towards their endorsers misconduct.... .
4) No need to wonder why the inconsistencies I think you might be finding what you're looking for and not necessarily what I mean
5) You are taking sides on a candidate. I'm not. I am taking sides on truth vs deceit. I wouldn't care which candidate it was.
6) Of course I said "potential" I wouldn't have made the statement without it. it wasn't a slip it was the key word I purposely put in there since she is not in office. And heck, where their is smoke their is fire.....
7) that's it I'm finished
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June 5, 2010 | 8:36 AM
I think your "bombshell" might be a "dud". Angelique has never put herself out to be a lawyer. Her resume is available on line via-a simple Google search. Plenty of people have law degrees who don't practice law. And the eviction thingy...that was 11 years ago. I don't know any details about that...but to automatically infer that she was derelict is a rash assumption. Even if she was, we don't know the circumstances, and it wouldn't be fair to judge her based on something she did when she was in her 20's! In any case - if you haven't already made up your mind as for whom you'll be casting your ballot, I would encourage you to consider more recent and relevant data in your selection process. Just for the record, I'm not running for public office because I egged a house in 1974.
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Ashby has never said that she is a lawyer - She did however graduate from McGeorge.

Ashby was a single mother, who struggled to make it through law school. I have much more respect for someone who has struggled, and maybe even has been evicted beceause they were finacially strapped, than someone who has not struggled.

I think the main problem we have in America is that we dont have elected officials that have struggled, survived and excelled. What we have is entitled silver spooned liars and thieves who have no idea what it is like in the real world.
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Jim, I agree with your above post. In fact it is the one thing that I admire about Ashby. I commend her on pulling herself up. I applaud her for all her achievements. Heck, if she ran for office 4 years from now having grown familiar with the crowd she choose to follow behind, putting down the games, deceit, silence..... (and some other reasons, I know some will pick and pull from my comment) heck I'd probably support her to get in office IF she becomes a strong person standing up and against the wolves.

As it currently stands she's too easily influenced and birds of a feather are flocking together pulling away from truth and transparency.

Unfortunately all the good qualities you list that you say she possess that I do admire, goes to h-e double hockey sticks in a basket when they allow entitled silver spooned liars and thieves who have no idea what it's like to be in the real world-- without NBA stardom/ star struck --stroke, influence and groom her. She may have once walked in the light but heck, she's taken a detour to a walk on the dark side but that's not to say she can't one day find her way back. But I don't think she's ready now. She's proven she's not ready to stand against the wolves with this campaign.
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Hey "Thinker” there is no one on this site I know or call.

I don’t know her position on Section 8, check with her campaign staff.

I am not in Ashby's camp. I have met her a few times at community meetings. In fact we have had big disagreements - her Integrity also has yet to be tested - but I know for a fact that Ray has none.

I have lived in South Natomas on and off for 25 years.... S. Natomas was once fantastic neighborhood that WAS safe. I have seen firsthand the destruction he has done and the effects on my property value. (BTW lower property values = fewer tax dollars collected, regardless of the economic downturn.)

In the last year there have been gang related murders, most of my neighbors have been burglarized, and I have had TWO HOME INVASION ROBBERY ATTEMPTS - the first two got away, the second two weren't so lucky, they got my gun in their face and a nice long prison sentence.

Having worked in law enforcment and having a BS in Criminal Justice, I know that there is no question that the policies Mr. Tretheway has promoted and/or passed while on the Council, have dramatically increased crime in our district.

The condition of District 1 is EXACTLY why Tretheway MUST GO.
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June 5, 2010 | 8:17 AM
Welcome to The Bigs, Sac Press. If you're going to post opinion, expect it to be used in a variety of ethical and unethical situations. It's like those phony film teases where the studio plucks the only three words from a review that may indicate the film is worth seeing and features them in advertising.

This bossmayor posse is apparently a pack of desperate kooks with no ethics.
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June 5, 2010 | 8:29 AM
...and the 'gang of 60' are angels...

Call us when your shuttle lands...
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June 5, 2010 | 12:30 PM
Oracle- It seems lots of folks are desperate, kooks with no ethics it appears our mayor does have an influence on this city after all. lol It appears more may have become a reflection of our mayor.

bbbbmer: I agree with you the gang of 60 aren't angels. And I don't see halos over the heads of Johnson, Maviglio, SPOA or even Ashby for that matter. lol
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June 5, 2010 | 8:45 AM
bbbbbmer is behind it no doubt
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June 5, 2010 | 9:28 AM
I only WISH I was that clever....
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June 5, 2010 | 12:43 PM
I think bbbmr's would have been more entertaining.
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June 5, 2010 | 2:05 PM
You're damned right it would have!
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June 5, 2010 | 12:46 PM
Again, I see lots of double standards when an article was written regarding Tretheway claims police officers union stole his on line identity lots of folks thought it was funny, found humor in the messy campaigns but now unfavorable mailers have gone out towards Ashby and Johnson and not so much laughter, for some it's not funny anymore.

I don't agree with messy campaigns but some of us are drowning with the games played by our mayor and his strategists and heck, it appears it's sink or swim in the games. Would things have gotten this messy if Johnson, Maviglio.... and others were not at the helm I doubt it but it is what it is a city threading on world class deceit under King Johnson and his loyal subjects.
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June 5, 2010 | 5:35 PM
"I don't feel like I have seen her active in Natomas...." Are you KIDDING?
Try this on for size: (News Release published last week)
"Congresswoman Matsui Announces Flood Insurance Relief for Natomas
FEMA to Allow Homeowners to Purchase Preferred Risk Policies

SACRAMENTO, CA - In cooperation with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Congresswoman Doris O. Matsui (D-Sacramento) announced today that Natomas residents will be able to purchase Preferred Risk Flood (PRP) Insurance Policies in 2011 and 2012. Over the course of the last year Congresswoman Matsui has continually worked with the Administration to ensure that homeowners in recently remapped areas have access to affordable flood insurance. Under this new policy, homeowners across the country that live in areas that have been remapped since 2008 will be eligible to renew their flood insurance at the Preferred Risk Policy price, rather than at the Standard X Zone cost - often four times at costly - for the next two years."
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June 5, 2010 | 7:23 PM
P-Thinker...Think about it! If not her, then who else would have? Robert Byrd? I don't believe there's anyone out there who would challenge the fact that Doris Matsui was THE legislative influence in getting this done. Quoting more from the news release: Congresswoman Matsui has been in constant communication with the administrators of the National Flood Insurance Program, advocating for continued access to PRP plans in re-mapped areas. Dating back to November 2008, Rep. Matsui secured a one-year extension of PRP eligibility for Natomas after she wrote to then-FEMA Administrator Paulson. In September 2009, Rep. Matsui wrote to FEMA Administrator Fugate, urging the agency to extend PRP for the residents of Natomas. She contacted the agency again on September 22, 2009, when some Natomas homeowners experienced difficulties in obtaining the PRP. "
FEMA didn't act on this unilaterally. Believe it or not, SOME politicians are actually effective in making positive change!
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Matsui has been very active in Natomas... working like a whirling dervish for the Greek Developer Mob that OWNS her COMPLETELY!

I could write a book on The Greek Developer Mob, Phil Angelides, and the Tsakopoulos' They should be indicted under federal RICO statutes - instead, they are protected - thats what billions of dollars can do in America.

In this country, bribery and extortion are legal if you have enough money. We call it campaign financing and Party politics. I prefer Mexico or China's version of corruption - up front and out in the open, eveyone knows what the game is.

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June 5, 2010 | 11:52 PM
Um, KJ's largest contributor is AKT. Have you ever read RICO??? I have my doubts -- no wonder you're one of Ashby's paranoid right wing supporters... She deserves you...
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Ok. I take back all my 'Miss Piggy' references...

But everything else against Ashby is fair game....

Let's see Ashby apologize for her surrogates' references to Tretheway's speech impediment, among other lies....
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P-Thinker: Your "name" contradicts your missives. "Straw man" would be more appropriate.
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June 5, 2010 | 11:56 PM
I have to agree -- Matsui's CSR's suck... I had a similar problem dealing with them about a Comcast cable issue after every regulatory agency that one might expect should handle oversight complaints, including local, state, and federal agencies, all denied oversight jurisdiction... It was a lovely Catch 22 situation. Her CSR's did basically nothing...

I still believe she's an effective representative of the interests of most citizens of this congressional district... She's also a neighbor whom, with her late husband, we have known for decades, and I respect her very very much...despite her CSR's....
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June 5, 2010 | 11:53 PM
Tretheway....as does the Sacramento County Democratic Party.
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ROFLMAO!!! Fort Natomas is acting like John Belushi's characterization in the old SNL skit, 'The thing that wouldn't leave'.... and in caps no less...

A 'B.S. in criminal justice'.... yowsa...

Again, I'd have been honored to serve Tretheway's camp, or that of Mr. Gutierrez... Alas, they couldn't afford me....
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June 7, 2010 | 7:04 AM
I have my doubts that you know much of anything, let alone about Ray Tretheway... LOL!
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June 6, 2010 | 12:37 AM
If Congressman Matsui is in the pockets of Angelides and his partner, that is wrong. I don't spend much time researching politics, I'm an Independent and encourage others to be the same. Politicians need to earn our hard earned money. However, Doris is relatively new and no Robert Matsui.
But one thing is for sure: the flood zone politics has got to end. Nobody will let the Airport flood. The home insurance lobby has pulled an okie doke on Natomas residents with their lobby. Kaiser has purchased a plot of land in Natomas that could bring over a thousands jobs.I bet lifting the flood restrictions would create an urgency for them to build to service their 133,000 members in Natomas.
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June 7, 2010 | 7:38 PM
What about moderating unsolicited "articles"?

As it stands, anyone could post something on SP - possibly even using some else's identity.
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An observer from afar sees this as a critically important conversation, and big ups to the SP community for getting to the point where UGC that appears under the larger editorial masthead becomes a "social object" with a life of its own. Success rarely looks like what you expected.

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June 8, 2010 | 10:02 AM
Wow. I've never read every single reply before. I think that is the real value of Sacramento Press---live forum for dialogues and even monologues. Can't wait for post primary comments. I love SP.
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June 8, 2010 | 10:05 AM
Simple solution: Sue the Building and Trades Council. Only way to stop these libelous ads is to hit 'em where it hurts.

BTW, one of your commenters complains that Kevin Johnson backs candidates who he thinks will vote his way. Well, DUH! Who should he support...people who hate him?
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