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Tim Wise Brings Racism Discussion to Sac State

by Stephen Gillis, published on April 14, 2010 at 10:58 PM

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 Prominent anti-racist author and speaker Tim Wise spoke about the continuing reality of racism in the United States to an audience of more than 700 students at Sacramento State University Wednesday.

Wise opened his lecture, "Colorblindness and its Consequences: How Ignoring Race Deepens the Racial Divide," with a personal story. He told the audience about when he lived with nine guys in Louisiana and one of his roommates made a pot of gumbo but never cleaned it up. Wise said the gumbo sat on the oven burner for more than a day and a half before the mess and smell compelled him to clean.

"It didn't matter that I didn't make the mess. The only thing that mattered was that I didn't want to live in that funk anymore," he said, using that example to tell students that even though they didn't help create the legacy of racism in society, it is their responsibility to help clean it up.

"This legacy lives today," Wise added. "It is one we must confront on a daily basis."

Wise pointed out, as an example, that the majority of CEOs of top companies are white men, who he then criticized for losing billions of dollars over the last few years.

"It would take half a millennium for black and brown folk to steal that much damn money!" Wise joked before adding, "But we're more afraid of a black guy crossing the street in a hoodie than we are of rich white men driving around in their Lexuses."

Throughout the rest of his lecture, Wise used stories, facts and statistics to make his point that racism is still alive in our society. He said the government, not the free market, helped create the middle class through the Homestead Act of 1862 and FHA loans from the '30s through '60s.

"The government has never been small for white Americans," he said.

Wise said that racial discrimination has made it harder for black and Latino people to get a jobs. He cited a statistic that said that a black person with a college degree is twice as likely as a white person to be out of work, and for Latinos, is almost two thirds as likely.

"For some people," he said, "double-digit unemployment ain't new."

Wise told the students that by being aware of the prejudice, they can more easily fight it. He was given a standing ovation after he finished and was available to sign books for the students who enjoyed his lecture.

"He really spoke to one of our big problems today," said English graduate student Lee Lee. "We're in denial about racism even though it affects us all."

Cosumnes River College student Kendall Gums brought his grandmother to the lecture, and he said he loved Tim Wise and his message.

"He's really in tune with the depth of society's prejudice." he said. "It's really excellent what he does."

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April 15, 2010 | 8:02 AM
To indict Whites only by virtue of race is also racism.
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April 15, 2010 | 9:12 AM
Sure it is. But does one type of racism negate another? Does it mean anything if the consequences to those types of racism are different? If so, should we treat them differently?
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April 18, 2010 | 6:54 PM
Stephen: what a good answer, and even better follow-up questions. And to think you are only 22 yrs young wow I am impressed.
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April 15, 2010 | 10:10 AM
We all have barriers to overcome. Should be the message.

Personal responsibility is a better message if we are all are to reach a point in history where we all get along and trust each other.

MJs "man in the mirror" undercuts all the racism rhetoric.

Otherwise you just fan the flames when going round and round on the subject of race.
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April 18, 2010 | 7:02 PM
John, I also agree with your post. It's very important to look at the man in the mirror. One thing that concerns me when we have this type of discussion is that we lump everyone within a race into the same category. I think if we didn't generalize it appearing all whites or all blacks.... then less would be offended. Because in reality racism doesn't just exist within one race and not everyone in a particular race is racist. So, we should look at the man in the mirror. And I like the we all have barriers to overcome message.
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April 15, 2010 | 10:28 AM
His message does not seem to be aimed at stopping racism, but rather avenging it. The swinging pendulum approach. Just push it back rather than stop it. It's just the same practice with a different race at the helm.
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April 15, 2010 | 1:46 PM
Did any of the Tea Partiers make it to this last night?
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April 15, 2010 | 5:03 PM
I didn't know about it until after the fact. I doubt Mr wise would have wanted a different opinion anyway. Lectures are usually a one sided affair as I recall. One person speaking to a bunch of impressionable young minds. I'd be glad to host a lecture with a different message, although it won't revolve around demonizing specific races of people
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April 15, 2010 | 8:36 PM
The expression "Some of my best friends are black" can actually have a literal rather than ironic meaning if white people would start paying attention to the different treatment black people receive from white people. By different I mean worse and that means an experience distinctly less desirable than the experiences of whites which racists often claim are the same with their typival clueless quote of "everybody has hurdles in their life in all races."Slavery ended black people still are treated like shit and by white people. And it is much deeper than economic justice. Just ask wealthier black people to describe some of the crap they/ve had to endure in their own neighborhoods. If stopped without a license then its likely, no matter how expensive the clothing and car might match the area, or even if the cop suspects you do live there, you can expect a very degrading situation and probably a jail visit that might be brief but meant to send a message.. No not all whites and cops are racist but there are alot who are so inclined. This is why we need discussions like the Sac State event. If you think claims of racism are overblown, then you are either racist or you're not paying attention. Once you see it, you see it often. I see it and, as a white person, I think black people have been remarkably patient with ignorance they have had and still do endure.
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April 15, 2010 | 11:02 PM
I'm not denying that there is still racism out there. I am rejecting mr Wise's solution to it. You don't stop racism by committing more racism. White people hardly have a corner on the market. I lived with a black woman when I was young, and was treated badly by both blacks and whites. Latino's, blacks, and asians all have exhibited the same racially exclusive/specific characteristics that mr Wise believes are only endemic to caucasians, and they do it in their countries of origin, with no prodding or influence by whites. Mr wise is plying the trade of a race hustler. we've been seeing a rise in that craft lately. People like Wise are not coming to Colleges to solve problems; they come to sieze control of the issues
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April 18, 2010 | 10:17 AM
Well said Ayotollah. "Ignoring race deepens the racial divide"? The premise is laughable. What happened to judging people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin?
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April 18, 2010 | 7:32 PM
Does racism still exist? absolutely. Heck LA just had a supremacist demonstration.... but that's not a reflection of all white Americans racism isn't a reflection of all Americans within any ethnic group.

Heck, if a white person from a low income community wore a hoodie.... he would not have gotten away with stealing billions. Heck, prisons aren't just filled with minorities so white people are arrested and charged with crimes other than on wall street. But I won't deny often their appears to be a sentencing disparity but we could look at the man in the mirror-- or the individual sentencing...

I think in addressing issues of race too many take the easy road and paint a black and white picture cause it's simple when addressing racism has many shades of gray. We can't or shouldn't 'simply' address a 'complex' issue. Just as with addressing any other issue when addressed on the surface it can and often does cause more division....

I think he should have held the forum at Sac State surely the college students can add and subtract from the division which could be formulated. And the key to the future can sometimes be the same key to unlocking the past where discussions on race can prevent history from repeating itself.... But as with anything we can't fight today's battles with yesterday's weapons for many reasons.....
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April 19, 2010 | 1:15 PM
Did he talk about racism commited against white people as well? I don't like the tone of this article as it doesn't address that his constant comparisons that people are only affraid of black people is missing the point. How many people are scared of the white guy in the broken down Ford wth the NRA sticker on it? The point is not to focus on skintones but how the people themselves act.
Sacramento is one THE most cutlurally and racial diverse city in America and we have very few segregated neighborhoods compared to other towns and cities. Of course we do have some but the majority is mixed and racial tensions are at an all time low here.
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April 19, 2010 | 6:53 PM
I think we should also focus on how the people themselves act. I agree Sacramento is the most culturally and racial diverse city. When my son-in-law came to visit from New Jersey. He was shocked with all the trees, flat land, houses spread apart… But the most surprising part of Sac he noticed was the different ethnic groups on my street. He said in Jersey it's not like that. People of one race generally live in their own racial neighborhood. He was surprised and enjoyed the cultural differences in the neighborhood.

But I disagree that racial tension is at an all time low in Sacramento. With the rise in unemployment...... as well as various other factors-- racial tension is high in Sac. It's often the displaced anger, frustration caused by unemployment which allows racism to float above the surface. If we want to see racial tension at an all time high all we really have to do is read many comments left on the Sac Bee site on various articles written regarding immigration, crime.... With many people loosing their jobs, many who could not get a job before this recession…with the economic,/ unemployment climate we’re facing heck, racism is high and should be discussed.. However I really don't agree with the way Tim Wise goes about addressing/ discussing it. Heck we should look at things as good vs evil, right vs wrong, love vs hate.... instead of black vs white...
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April 20, 2010 | 10:14 AM
Thank you for writing about this. I didn't know of this talk, and couldn't have made it anyway. Always disappointing when the other media don't cover the seminal thinkers we get at the local colleges & universities. Liked the article and the thoughtfulness of the comments.
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April 21, 2010 | 2:53 PM
You do make a good point Rhonda regarding unemployment here and rising racial tensions as a result of it, I meant more overall as a trend not taking into account the biggest recession in seventy years. That is definitely a contributing factor; I live in the North Natomas area though and from what I've seen (graduating from Inderkum, first class ever in 2007) it has gotten a lot better than when I was in middle school at Leeroy Greene.


For some reason my profile isn't telling me you replied to my comment and won't let me reply to you. So don't think I'm ignoring you!
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April 22, 2010 | 12:39 AM
Thanks Cameron. I'm not ignoring your post either. I don't know when people reply either. But it won't let you reply to my comment because my comment was a reply to yours. You have to hit reply on your comment and it would post below mines.. I didn't get it at first and wondered why I couldn't reply to someone- lol But I didn't think you were ignoring me.

I understand what you're saying and I do agree as an overall trend things have gotten far better. I do agree with you we shouldn't focus on skin tones but the individuals, people themselves... Heck, if I don't like people looking at all black youth as suspects surely I have to understand people not wanting someone to look at racism as a white problem. It's America's problems existing within all ethnic groups and within all ethnic groups their are not racists. It goes beyond white and it is unfair to label or target whites as a whole or any ethnic group....Fair is Fair and people should treat people the way they would want to be treated. Heck, if I were white I would be offended. I try my best to look beyond color heck I don't have to be white to also be offended for people who are white. I think it could have and should have been done differently. Thanks again. Much respect.
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April 22, 2010 | 12:56 PM
TODAY'S WORD from Joel and Victoria
Are you determined to forget the past? I know many people don't fully understand what that means. They wonder, "How can I forget something that's happened to me?" But one definition of the word forget is to disregard intentionally or to overlook. In other words, you have to choose to disregard your past so that it doesn't keep you from moving forward. That means the good and the bad. Sometimes our past victories keep us from rising higher as much as past failures. If we don't let go of the old, we'll never be able to embrace the new.

It doesn't matter what's happened in your history, it's time to forget what lies behind. Make the choice today to look forward. Trust that God has a better future in store for you. Trust that He's working behind the scenes on your behalf. As you forget what lies behind and press forward, you will see the abundant life the Lord has in store for you!
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April 26, 2010 | 1:11 PM
Completely off topic but do you know Roberts Family Development Center on Del Paso ? I volunteered there a lot last year and it came to me as a good example of a fairly racially mixed group of Elementary kids for an after school program. It really amazed me how race didn't seem to factor into their playing decisions at all and often saw black,white,latino, asian, etc kids playing together in their little groups. I think after school programs like that help alleviate racial tension and show children just how stupid racism is.

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